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I remember watching Boyzone sing that at Wembley Arena, that takes me back a few years.

Er, I only remember the original Blue Mink version with Herbie Flowers and Madeline Bell etc !

Lommy, I wasn't have a pop at you (I value my shins too much). Here's a little known fact: I am one-eighth Scouser. It's true. Calm down! Calm down!! < see.

On the subject of racism and music here's some old white Irish guys singing about black oppression and rebellion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI0c3c_epCU.

I do think it's a shame that this song isn't socially acceptable anymore.

For some reason the link won't work, just go to youtube and type in Christy Moore Biko Drum

Replicant wrote:I am one-eighth Scouser.

Eh, yer gorra cob on then ?

I hate all races equally particularly the ghastly British. But then I am British myself. I wonder if that makes me racist.

sorry to be pedantic, but...

there is only one race...the human race...

there is no such thing as british when it comes down to creed either..you cannot be born in wales, ireland, scotland and england all at the same time...

mr lewis should stop feeling ashamed about being a Scotsman. The Scots are marvellous people generally, though occassionally misunderstood.

Despite him dallying with living in filthy old Essex, I'm sure his holiness sir lewis retains his Scots characteristics...

Having just watched the program...

I can't help but feel the show was a little contrived. It started out as blue vs brown eyes, and she failed to make any kind of impact. And she was very much pigeon holing with the white/black and arrogantly ignoring anybody who disagrees with her

Every human is the same, no matter what colour your skin is. There is no "preserving your identity" because literally the only difference between black and white people is the colour of your skin (as explained in another show in the series)

It could've been an interesting experiment if there was any kind of racism going on in britain nowadays, but I think we've all matured now and it's not as big a problem as it used to be. But then again I'm a white person. Maybe I'm just ignoring it :p

kolm wrote:literally the only difference between black and white people is the colour of your skin

People who do not have relatives who were slaves/part of apartheid/marginalised often think that.

damianjennings wrote:

kolm wrote:literally the only difference between black and white people is the colour of your skin

People who do not have relatives who were slaves/part of apartheid/marginalised often think that.

That assumes that slavery is a crime that has only ever been committed by white people against non-whites.

As far as I understand it, many - if not most - of the slaves used in Europe and America were enslaved in Africa, and bought from established African slave traders.

Going back further in time, I could mention the Roman empire, which ran a thoroughly equal offortunities system when it came to slavery. It enslaved and sold men women and children of all colours and nationalities.

Pete

kolm wrote:It could've been an interesting experiment if there was any kind of racism going on in britain nowadays, but I think we've all matured now and it's not as big a problem as it used to be.

So, what does everyone think about the Germans then? I think that's your socially acceptable, PC version of racism. And no French aren't racists, just better than everyone else.

pcwells wrote:

damianjennings wrote:

kolm wrote:literally the only difference between black and white people is the colour of your skin

People who do not have relatives who were slaves/part of apartheid/marginalised often think that.

That assumes that slavery is a crime that has only ever been committed by white people against non-whites.

As far as I understand it, many - if not most - of the slaves used in Europe and America were enslaved in Africa, and bought from established African slave traders.

Going back further in time, I could mention the Roman empire, which ran a thoroughly equal offortunities system when it came to slavery. It enslaved and sold men women and children of all colours and nationalities.

Pete

Pete, you are (possibly willfully) missing my point totally.

Kolm said that black and white people were identical apart from their skin colour.

My point is they aren't identical at all.

But you go around knocking down straw men if you like.

damianjennings wrote:

pcwells wrote:

damianjennings wrote:

kolm wrote:literally the only difference between black and white people is the colour of your skin

People who do not have relatives who were slaves/part of apartheid/marginalised often think that.

That assumes that slavery is a crime that has only ever been committed by white people against non-whites.

As far as I understand it, many - if not most - of the slaves used in Europe and America were enslaved in Africa, and bought from established African slave traders.

Going back further in time, I could mention the Roman empire, which ran a thoroughly equal offortunities system when it came to slavery. It enslaved and sold men women and children of all colours and nationalities.

Pete

Pete, you are (possibly willfully) missing my point totally.

Kolm said that black and white people were identical apart from their skin colour.

My point is they aren't identical at all.

But you go around knocking down straw men if you like.

If I missed your point, then I apologise.

Although I might argue that whatever point you made wasn't at all clear.



Pete

kolm wrote:literally the only difference between black and white people is the colour of your skin.

Not quite. Statistically at least, there are skeletal and other anatomical differences. This is why facial reconstruction specialists can give a good educated guess as to the race of a skull. There are also a lot of genetic and metabolic differences between populations. Sickle-cell anaemia is basically a disease of Africans, especially those from west Africa. Tay-Sachs disease affects mainly Ashkenazi Jews. Most people of non-European descent are lactose-intolerant, and people from the Far East tend to be alcohol-intolerant. And so on.

The point is, none of these is particularly important to someone's identity as a human being and an individual.

(Not that I'm all that keen on human beings anyway.)

pcwells wrote:
If I missed your point, then I apologise.

Although I might argue that whatever point you made wasn't at all clear.



Pete

Well I apologise for making unclear points