3-2 Mentalism Routine

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 18th, '10, 21:09



Ok. I've finally decided upon a routine and I several methods of achieving it, but the effect is as follows.
I am introduced and I ask everyone to think of some common psychological forces. Those who didn't recieve any of my thoughts are asked to stand- which, hopefully, will only be a handfull. These people are the hardest people for me to work with supposedly and so I will try something which I claim I have no idea how it will work. I select two spectators and one is invited on stage and is told they will be the mind reader who I then hypnotise, I then select a different spectator and then perform 'lift' by DB.
Then I begin talking to the second spectator who will focus upon one of the following options (I'm not sure which would be best):
-some personal information- house adress, surname e.t.c.
-A thought
which the spectator who I have hypnotised divines. Et voila.

The problem is- it looks very clean and very much like what people might have seen on tv (I'm not sure about including lift) and not origional enough in terms of effect.
What do people think?

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 18th, '10, 21:12

I think you could do a drawing duplication. Someone went in the semi final of a tv talent show with it.

I didn't know that? Was that on bgt?

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Postby nicolas1447 » Feb 18th, '10, 21:26

you can see the video using this link. go to the bottom of the page. It is a version of britain's got talent in france
http://www.magikdata.com/en/index.php

Sounds like you will do quite a lot in 3 minutes.

I think it depends on the type of talent show you are doing. If it is BGT, you need something original, with a good presentation. I guess they must have about 20 guys coming to pretend to be a mentalist every day so you have to make sure you have something different

If it's a local talent show, then a good, tested classic effect should do the job.

Can you tell us which show it is?

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 18th, '10, 21:30

It isn't a tv show, but it does need to be origional. Indeed I do a lot in 3 minuits hence why I want to cut lift, but it's very visual.
Is my routine too run of the mil though?
Oh and btw, I saw that program in france when I was over there at new year, there was a magician and some dancers there. Just some useless info for you.

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Postby nicolas1447 » Feb 18th, '10, 21:35

As long as you are comfortable with the presentation, i think it's fine.

good luck

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Postby jackleg » Feb 19th, '10, 00:21

It sounds good to me. But (and I haste to add I am not being negative here!)
You only have, at most, 3 minutes... 180 seconds.
The averadge advert break in the UK is just under 5 and how quickly do they appear to go??!

It reads very strongly but my worry is that just what you've mentioned alone would probably take 6 minutes. Getting people from the audience takes time.

But good luck. Try a dress rehersal and time it.
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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 00:38

thanks for the advice. It looks like lift is out then. In fact, the whole reason I had it in there was because it played stron visually and it tied into the theme of the spectators being mind readers instead of just several unrelated effects, but if the entire audience is involved with the psychological forces then that theme is still present throughout.
So then, how could I make it a little more visual, and what about origionality?
I was thinking then, If I have the spectator hypnotised (In the most theatrical and entertaining- and of course safe, ways possible) then they cannot see. If I then have the spectator write down what they are thinking so the entire audience can see, and then I can ask the audience to project that thought themselves so that it is personalised (not just 'look how clever I am'). Would having the thought written jeapordise the cleaness of the effect?
And what about origionality?

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Postby Part-Timer » Feb 21st, '10, 23:33

SamGurney wrote:Ok. I've finally decided upon a routine and I several methods of achieving it, but the effect is as follows.
I am introduced and I ask everyone to think of some common psychological forces.


Please don't take this too much to heart, but have you actually appreciated just how long your proposed full routine would have taken, with proper presentation?

I think that the bit I have quoted above will take two or three minutes, at a fairly brisk pace. At least, that's how long it took me, when I tried to do it reasonably quickly, but without being absurdly rushed.

I don't think you have the time to explore themes. You have time to do a couple of very quick pieces (like Osterlind's 'Inside the Fold', for example, or psychological forces), or one fairly short effect.

I think the Tossed Out Deck suggestion was very good. If you track down Wayne Dobson's handling (I think it's in more than one book, and may have been thought of by others too), this could be a perfect routine for the time you have available.

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