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Postby Just Steve » Apr 17th, '10, 17:26



I value the right to vote highly, i am just very skeptical when it comes to the government as i have a lot of contempt for them.

I guess this contradicts my whole argument above as if i hate the current government then i should contribute to shoving them out of power.

I actually wrote all of that last night after being in a huge argument with my parents about the voting, and although i am only young, i have a huge respect for the people who have done this country justice and laid down their lives and livelihoods for our generations. All the stuff i wrote above came out from the anger i was feeling at the time so i guess i was pretty blurry in what i was trying to say.

That aside, i have been paying a lot more attention to the debates today and have to admit that the Lib Dems do seem appealing to me, im going to put a lot more effort into deciding who to vote for as this is the first time i have the opportunity to do so and in a sense i am just throwing everything in the face of the people who fought for me to have this right.

Thankyou for not completely disregarding me in light of my comments.

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Postby pcwells » Apr 18th, '10, 10:38

It's fun to watch the two big parties turn all their attention towards the Lib Dems in mad panic over their newfound popularity.

It's all just serving to get the Lib Dems mentioned again and again in the press, giving them a degree of exposure that they've never had until now.

It can only do Clegg a million favours.

It'll be fun to watch. :)

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Postby Tomo » Apr 18th, '10, 16:04

Our Lib Dem candidate is a a professor of particle physics from Manchester Uni who works at CERN. Nice one! :)

The Tory candidate is a slimy career politico dropped in to do the party some good. There was some scandal last year when Tory central office barred popular local councillors from putting their names forward to replace the woeful Nicolas Winterton. Wither democracy?

The Labour candidate is, er, is, um... I'm sure there is one, but for the life of me I don't know who it is.

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Postby kolm » Apr 18th, '10, 17:35

I've yet to hear from my lib dem candidate, although I know he exists because I follow him on twitter. I haven't stopped hearing from our labour candidate

Since the TV debate it seems that the lib dems have taken over labour in some polls :o

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Postby Grimshaw » Apr 18th, '10, 17:46

The Lib Demmer in my area is an absolute top geezer. David Heath. I've known him to get very involved in a lot of things, and if he doesn't genuinely care, then he does a VERY good impression of someone who does.

Thing is, all this Lib Dem catcher uppery, is it going to merely help bring about a Hung Parliament?

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Postby pcwells » Apr 18th, '10, 17:50

Grimshaw wrote:Thing is, all this Lib Dem catcher uppery, is it going to merely help bring about a Hung Parliament?


But would a hung parliament necessarily be a bad thing? With no party being able to control commons with its whip, we might see some genuine thought going into the debating chamber.

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Postby gillows » Apr 19th, '10, 08:49

I've made up my mind. I'm going to give the incumbent MP my vote. Not for any other reason than she's proved herself to be very good at getting on top of local issues and didn't have her hands in the till. On a national level it makes no difference, we are still in the do-do whoever gets in.

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Postby DrTodd » Apr 19th, '10, 08:53

It;s my job to provide commentary on these debates on BBC Essex,where the real interest was on how they compared to the US debates...

see http://drtoddlandman.wordpress.com

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Postby Tomo » Apr 19th, '10, 15:19

DrTodd wrote:It;s my job to provide commentary on these debates on BBC Essex,where the real interest was on how they compared to the US debates...

see http://drtoddlandman.wordpress.com

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Are you aware of this?: http://tinyurl.com/y4t4noa

I trust the author and have a feeling it's possibly illegal under UK election law to deliberately skew polls to get people to vote in a certain way. It's certainly very bad form indeed, and I'd definitely be publicising it if it were against any other party.

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Postby DrTodd » Apr 20th, '10, 09:25

Showing intent in this case is difficult. They can claim that question ordering is not illegal,even though it smacks of 'leading the witness'...asfor Craig Murray,well great on the human rights front, but some pretty shady personal habits...

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Postby pcwells » Apr 20th, '10, 11:50

If the BBC new website can be believed, the Lib Dems have the unconditional support of none other than Floella Benjamin!

No further endorsements are necessary in my book. If I learned anything as a child, it's that Floella Benjamin is a saint and a guru. I for one will be doing my all to send Nick Clegg to Number Ten!!

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Postby themagicwand » Apr 20th, '10, 12:11

pcwells wrote:If the BBC new website can be believed, the Lib Dems have the unconditional support of none other than Floella Benjamin!

No further endorsements are necessary in my book. If I learned anything as a child, it's that Floella Benjamin is a saint and a guru. I for one will be doing my all to send Nick Clegg to Number Ten!!

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Postby SamGurney » Apr 20th, '10, 19:47

Please people don't vote for David Cameron :shock:
I have been saying Lib Dems all along and delight in the fact they're no longer a wasted vote and are a real contender for power. Several people may be killed in rage should the plastic capitalist tory take the helm.
But of course, I have no pollitical voice because of my age I am a hoodie who lurks on street corners smoking spliffs and drinking red bull and getting drunk on stella and abusing old ladies. I certainly don't have a brain and any pollitical interest and the government cares about me so much I am not allowed to excersise any free will because that would be FAR, FAR too dangerous... for ME, the young naive hoodie, of course.

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Postby Just Steve » Apr 20th, '10, 22:38

Well i am probably going to vote for Lib-dem because of several of their policies that will benefit me as a student, but i am slightly worried about Clegg's determination to abolish the Trident Nuclear programme, considering certain other countries have their programs on the increase...

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Postby SamGurney » Apr 20th, '10, 22:45

Nuclear weapons a most certainly a dreadful thing- buying into an arms race has NEVER been a good thing and has nearly almost always lead to war and mass destruction. The anglo-germanic naval arms race prior to the first world war for example- Our time would have been much better spent just sharing empires for god's sake- it was never even our's in the first place. Perhaps the empires did some good and that's all very nice, but otherwise the rich nations capitalised and monopolised on the poorer countries with tyranny.

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