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Did you like the "Daily Mail" style headline?

Its quite accurate, though to be fair if anyone deserves benefits for mentally unstable it's me. Anyway... Yesterday I had a talk with my friend Maeve, and Maeve is to me what petrol is to an engine. Basically we sat down and worked out a small carrier plan - how very organised

Basically she said I needed a script so that I could approuch a manager of a restaurant and have something good to say. I tried searching the Cafe, but the relavent topic I was looking for has for some reason been deleted. I would post this question there, but I think most members of the Cafe would rather commit beastiality than actually help me at this point.

So can someone suggest a good place/script/routine to get hired for a restaurant gig?



Tom
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Eshly wrote:Did you like the "Daily Mail" style headline?

Its quite accurate

No, I don't like it. And I don't agree. Please keep this rubbish confined to non-magic-related forums/sub-forums.

Ted wrote:

Eshly wrote:Did you like the "Daily Mail" style headline?

Its quite accurate

No, I don't like it. And I don't agree. Please keep this rubbish confined to non-magic-related forums/sub-forums.

It was self-depricating humor, I was just trying to liven up the post a bit

Eshly wrote:

Ted wrote:

Eshly wrote:Did you like the "Daily Mail" style headline?

Its quite accurate

No, I don't like it. And I don't agree. Please keep this rubbish confined to non-magic-related forums/sub-forums.

It was self-depricating humor, I was just trying to liven up the post a bit

Please don't.

I don't understand. You need a script to enable you to walk into a restaurant to find work as a close up magician?

You're supposed to be a mentalist. Just walk into the bloody place and deal with it.

tom's not wired like the majority of folk though...

i'd say try and get some coaching from careers advice folk at your university...there's no magic-words we can give you that will help...

talk it over with a careers/job advisor type person...

the alternative is to ring up, make an appointment with the manager and just plain ask...

What I meant was:

Is there something like the old thread back at the Cafe by a guy called Christopher? It was a long sticky topic about what to say/ask for and what not to say... I can't find it again.

For example, I remember one tip was to NOT mention you are a magician... dunno if that applies still or not.

I'd love to hear from some people who do restaurant work


Tom
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Not speaking from experience here, but if you're applying for magician work, you'd better mention you're a magician! Every minute spent not getting down to business is a minute of a busy manager's time wasted.

To be honest, in the time it takes to walk into 10 restaurants and get turned away again you can have shot off 100 emails. When I started out I walked from restaurant to restaurant, spent hours, days, wandering the streets. The reactions I got from restaurants varied from complete disinterest to rude dismissals. One or two seemed quite interested in what I did, but purely on a personal not business level. I must have walked into 100 restaurants and got 2 bookings from them - both of which turned into long term bookings but still, I spent days of my life being knocked back in order to secure those two bookings.

I would suggest that emails are the way to go. You can easily send out hundreds of email from the comfort of your home and the success rate isn't that far off the "success" rate I experienced from actually walking into venues.

No restaurants I walked into ever asked to see a demonstration of magic. If they were interested in anything, they were interested in how much I cost.

And I would agree with Robbie. Sooner or later you're going to have to mention that you're a magician. Otherwise you're just a guy standing in front of them asking for money.

I don't think they're going to ask for any demo's. They'll ask how much you charge, and what you can do for them (Increase business, etc etc.) and if you'll get in the way of the waiting staff.

You don't really NEED a script for that kind of short meeting (which it will most likely be.).

The two restaurants that booked me, the first the manager walked over, I introduced myself ("Hello I'm Paul and I'm a close-up magician specialising in restaurant work, just wondering if I can be of service to your establishment?"), he asked how much, I told him and he said "Well it's mother's day next Sunday, are you free?" Simple as that.

The other one I introduced myself to the duty manger, she said she'd speak to the manager and call me (which you will hear a lot if you do walk into restaurants to introduce yourself, and of course they never do call you), and lo and behold 3 hours later she called and booked me!

But apart from that it's soul destroying work, walking into venues and getting refused time and time again. Trust me, fire off a hundred emails instead. No pounding the streets and you have the opportunity to get across the message you want. But you'll need a website - something pretty for them to look at.

themagicwand wrote:The two restaurants that booked me, the first the manager walked over, I introduced myself ("Hello I'm Paul and I'm a close-up magician specialising in restaurant work, just wondering if I can be of service to your establishment?"), he asked how much, I told him and he said "Well it's mother's day next Sunday, are you free?" Simple as that.

The other one I introduced myself to the duty manger, she said she'd speak to the manager and call me (which you will hear a lot if you do walk into restaurants to introduce yourself, and of course they never do call you), and lo and behold 3 hours later she called and booked me!

But apart from that it's soul destroying work, walking into venues and getting refused time and time again. Trust me, fire off a hundred emails instead. No pounding the streets and you have the opportunity to get across the message you want. But you'll need a website - something pretty for them to look at.

I have tried sending tons of emails and It hasn't got me anywhere. I'm interested in doing restaurant magic at the moment myself as I have been doing close-up for the last 5 years.I hope you don't mind if I ask if they paid you or not,thank you.

Randy wrote:You don't really NEED a script for that kind of short meeting (which it will most likely be.).

Scripting and mental rehearsal is always helpful in Asperger's syndrome to prepare for any new or unusual social situation. I only wish I knew that years ago.

If you plan to send out emails, use your spell-checker. And don't use the same word twice in quick succession. If you're stuck, use a thesaurus. and/or get a reading friend to proof-read for you ("its", for example, is here misused and not misspelt).

Good luck.

Eshly wrote:Its quite accurate, though to be fair if anyone deserves benefits for mentally unstable it's me. Anyway... Yesterday I had a talk with my friend Maeve, and Maeve is to me what petrol is to an engine. Basically we sat down and worked out a small carrier plan - how very organised

Basically she said I needed a script so that I could approuch a manager of a restaurant and have something good to say. I tried searching the Cafe, but the relavent topic I was looking for has for some reason been deleted. I would post this question there, but I think most members of the Cafe would rather commit beastiality than actually help me at this point.

And finally, another vote of distaste for your choice of title. Once you're on the broo they do a damn fine job of keeping you trapped there, regardless of what the Daily Mail or smug politicians would have you believe, and regardless of your education, intelligence and abilities. Don't spout their rhetoric if you have no experience of how it actually is. Thanks.