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greedoniz wrote:I'm interested in this also but am wondering about getting the photo print-outs.

Am I correct in presuming you can either use the images provided or create your own on photoshop with elements provided on the disc and then slap this on a memory stick and print out at a digital photo printy thing in a shop?

If the printy thingy in the shop is possible do have one performance per printout or do you chuck a load on, say, one A4 sheet?

I presume this isnt exposure of any kind as it doesn't involve the trick itself but rather the costs and time of making the 'gimmicks'

If you look at my clip you will see I use my old promo photo. I just made it on the template that come with the disc.

Then I went and picked up some postcard size photo paper for wallet size photos and I get two on a sheet. I can make about one a minute after they are printed. (I print them myself) I could of put them on a stick and gone to the printers, but I wanted lots so was cheaper to do it myself.

Cheers that helps a lot

The printer I have at home is very basic (came free with the computer) and doesnt print on photo paper and the print outs of photos on normal paper are pony so would have to do it at a shop.

Oh I dislike this effect.

It makes no sense.

Here is a photo. I rip it up and swop it for a mismade photo, that I do not then 'fix'.

The story has a beginning, then a middle, where the photo is mismade, how on earth will our hero fix this mistake!

Umm, he won't!

It's a 3 part story with the 3rd part missing.

You can see him performing it on the Ellen show and I don't think it works in the inventor's hands.

Glad the people here can make it work for them.

I prefer Garcia's Torn and/or a bill switch from the great Switch book. This feels unresolved to me.

Trevor Roll wrote:
Here is a photo. I rip it up and swop it for a mismade photo, that I do not then 'fix'.

But that is The Trick?

you could say with the invisble deck:
Beginning: Spec names a card
Middle: Card is reversed in the deck
Ending: Oh there is no ending?


You can always restore it back to the correct version of the photo after? (I dont own this but can't imagine its too hard) - It would just need to be signed on the back, or not at all?

magicj wrote:

Trevor Roll wrote:
Here is a photo. I rip it up and swop it for a mismade photo, that I do not then 'fix'.

But that is The Trick?

you could say with the invisble deck:
Beginning: Spec names a card
Middle: Card is reversed in the deck
Ending: Oh there is no ending?


You can always restore it back to the correct version of the photo after? (I dont own this but can't imagine its too hard) - It would just need to be signed on the back, or not at all?

It can be done that way, and I know mgicians that have tried it. But they say it is stronger and the reactions are better with the mis matched photo.

Lee Smith wrote:

magicj wrote:

Trevor Roll wrote:
Here is a photo. I rip it up and swop it for a mismade photo, that I do not then 'fix'.

But that is The Trick?

you could say with the invisble deck:
Beginning: Spec names a card
Middle: Card is reversed in the deck
Ending: Oh there is no ending?


You can always restore it back to the correct version of the photo after? (I dont own this but can't imagine its too hard) - It would just need to be signed on the back, or not at all?

It can be done that way, and I know mgicians that have tried it. But they say it is stronger and the reactions are better with the mis matched photo.

I agree with you.

Everybody knows 'saw a lady in half and put her together' they expect somthing to be broken and put back together again. thats a classic. this is a twist on that.

the more i talk about it, the more i want it.

I got a copy of this about 6 months ago at one of Shawns lectures in the UK. I can open the template (with an old version of photoshop elemetns) but I haven't a clue how to use layers - so I can't apply his template to my photos.

I make the photos by other means but, despite this being a great trick, this hassle now deters me from using the routine. It's a great idea but I suggest you need to be very familiar with photoshop or other photo-manipulation software before you buy. The new version of T2P might include instructions on this, I don't know.

The new version has detailed instructions for both Photoshop and Gimp. The template has also been done in such a way that, if you're using Photoshop, with just a few clicks it will load everything into the template. All you need to do ithen is save it.

All in all, with Photoshop, it will probably take you about 2 minutes. With Gimp, I've got my time down from 10 minutes to about 5.

However, once the photo has been done, you don't need to do it again, unless you want to change the image.

photobox.co.uk, online, quick, very good quality - cheap...

that is all...

oh, apart from this - why not do it in reverse? say you ordered loads of promo photos and they all came back messed, sign it, then give it away all sorted out...

not got the effect nor know if its doable, but thats how i'd play it if i were a magician...

Having torn and restored the photo but notice it being mismatched, would there be anyway to do it again and end up with the photo back as it was right at the start?

Mandrake, with a bit of thought, I don't see why not. However, the effect of the photo, with their signature on, proving that it's the same photo, is so strong, it's a fantastic souvenir to leave them with.

This is something that has shown to be a bit of a mixed blessing but it does raise some questions.

Firstly, which photo are you going to use?
The original idea is that it is just a photo you have in your wallet, so a family member etc. You get to the end and you have essentially destroyed this treasured possession of yours. The next thing that invariably happens is the spec says "but you're going to fix this right?" and you can't, but how do you explain that?

Or, you use a photo that you aren't particularly fond of anyway, which begs the question, why on earth are you carrying it around with you? Just to do this trick?? Doesn't that put it firmly in the realm of "very set up ahead of time" in your audiences mind right from the get go?

I was doing this tonight,and got chatting to a few of the guests after I finished.

This was the effect they was talking to each other about and when I asked them about it they just said it was impossible and that they was left holding an impossible object.

This is the strength of the mis made photo it does not matter what it is. It is just impossible to them this is signed and they saw it before and after.

This is proving to be by far one of the best things I have perfromed.

I love it.

Lee Smith wrote:I was doing this tonight,and got chatting to a few of the guests after I finished.

This was the effect they was talking to each other about and when I asked them about it they just said it was impossible and that they was left holding an impossible object.

This is the strength of the mis made photo it does not matter what it is. It is just impossible to them this is signed and they saw it before and after.

This is proving to be by far one of the best things I have perfromed.

I love it.

I think most people are over thinking this too much. As far as I'm concerned only one thing counts, are your spectators amazed?

I think leaving it mismatched is brilliant as Lee says " they was left holding an impossible object".
If you restored it back to its original form then they could jump to the conclusion it was never really torn. When the spectator then shows the photo to others who haven't seen the effect in action the jumbled signed image will serve as more of an illustration than a restored one.

In fact surely one could include this in the patter to reinforce the effect.
" Now a magician would usually restore this back to original state but you might then say that I never tore it in the first place and also it would not make a particularly magicial gift so I will....blah blah blah"

IAIN wrote:photobox.co.uk, online, quick, very good quality - cheap...

that is all...

oh, apart from this - why not do it in reverse? say you ordered loads of promo photos and they all came back messed, sign it, then give it away all sorted out...

not got the effect nor know if its doable, but thats how i'd play it if i were a magician...

Now, that is the first sensible suggestion I've read about this effect. Brilliant idea.