SPIKE! ( Spike Under Cup )

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Postby Randy » Dec 19th, '10, 22:55



Well it can be used and done in Family parties and with Children around. also if you screw the trick up, you won't cut your hand open or bleed to death. You'll just look like a dork with egg smashed on his hands and the show will still be able to continue without them having to call emergency services. :lol:

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Postby rhysjones » Dec 20th, '10, 11:03

Bish Bash Bosh from fiveofheartsmagic.co.uk is Smash 'n' Stab with an egg instead of a spike.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Dec 20th, '10, 11:20

If you're going to use eggs, why not have five of them hard boiled and one raw. Take turns with the spectator to smash an egg against your forehead, until there's one left. Takes the real danger away and would make for quite a fun routine while still giving you a chance to play up the drama.

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Postby bmat » Dec 20th, '10, 15:48

Jordan C wrote:I am having visions of the guy who did this on TV and stabbed his hand... who was he?


I don't know if it was caught on TV but Gary Kurtz did stab himself in a nightclub. It was filmed but not sure if it was for tv or not.

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Postby Danny Joseph » Dec 23rd, '10, 01:16

Phillip:

The reason why I'm considering the egg idea is because of legal reasons - It would be illegal to perform SPIKE in a public place.

It is not as if I've been hired, gained any licence etc. to perform an act with dangerous items.

the reason why I would want to use a hard boiled egg is because I wouldn't want to be in a pub, 12 eggs in my pocket, someone bump into me and all of a sudden I'm bleeding chicken-goo. I'm sure I could put together a transformation or a vanish to finish the trick off anyway... :) - and I'm sure no one will even notice its hard boiled :P

This is the main reason why I want a variation with a non-lethal spike tip (fold in safety spike), not just in case it goes wrong, but because of it being classed as a loaded weapon otherwise.

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Postby Randy » Dec 23rd, '10, 01:32

Brian Brushwood also had a video of himself trying out a new idea and ending up stabbing a knife/nail into his hand for his efforts.

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Postby TonyB » Dec 23rd, '10, 01:49

Danny, it would not be illegal to perform this in public. What a bizarre idea.
Also, to correct an earlier statement, Keith Barry has never injured anyone performing this routine. In fact, the presentation using the spectator's hand rather than the performers hand is Keith's, and it has never let him down.

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Postby Ted » Dec 23rd, '10, 01:50

Danny Joseph wrote:the reason why I would want to use a hard boiled egg is because I wouldn't want to be in a pub, 12 eggs in my pocket, someone bump into me and all of a sudden I'm bleeding chicken-goo.


Might I suggest an egg box?

Surely you don't need 12 eggs? That seems rather eggs-cessive (ba boom!)

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Postby Tomo » Dec 23rd, '10, 02:45

Danny Joseph wrote:The reason why I'm considering the egg idea is because of legal reasons - It would be illegal to perform SPIKE in a public place.

When was all this decided?

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Postby Tomo » Dec 23rd, '10, 02:48

Lady of Mystery wrote:If you're going to use eggs, why not have five of them hard boiled and one raw. Take turns with the spectator to smash an egg against your forehead, until there's one left. Takes the real danger away and would make for quite a fun routine while still giving you a chance to play up the drama.

Your kids are going to absolutely love their birthday parties!

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Dec 23rd, '10, 10:37

Oh I can't wait, they'll be so much fun! :D

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Postby Danny Joseph » Dec 23rd, '10, 10:51

So out of curiousity, why doesn't `spike` come under `carrying lethal objects in a unsecure place` ?

I do catering and only way we can take knifes back and forth is in a absolutely huge sealed tight, password protected box, why not the same for a sharp 4" spike?


- Which, we know, IS lethal from those who have done this wrong...

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Postby Mandrake » Dec 23rd, '10, 13:43

Interesting point. Perhaps it's because knives are intended and expected to cut whereas 'spikes' aren't. Even though they can do and often will!

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Postby Ted » Dec 23rd, '10, 16:00

If what you say is true then maybe the large knives used in catering might be in a category of their own when being transported professionally. If I buy an 8in knife from John Lewis I can carry it home without locking it up. The same with a toolbag containing crowbar, hammer and Stanley knife. You can carry one of those around too.

The thing is, you need to be able to justify it to the police if they stop you. Get caught driving around the countryside at 3am with a crowbar in your boot and this will look rather suspicious.

Virtually anything can be a lethal weapon (Mandrake's legendary wit, for example. And my bare hands).

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Postby TonyB » Dec 24th, '10, 02:20

Danny, Spiked has never been lethal. No one has died from it. There is an issue with being in a public place with sharp objects, but if you have them seccured enroute, and are using them in the course of your work (paid or unpaid) then the legal issue disappears.

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