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Postby Beardy » Jan 11th, '11, 20:51



SamGurney wrote:That.. and the Berglas effect.


haha! :lol:

Craig, whilst you are writing your essays on what constitutes as magic or not, I'm out being paid £300 an hour to perform this "magic trick", whilst being hired as a "mind reader". Anywho, some of your ideas are really interesting. I was especially interested by .robb.'s idea - I'm sure you can imagine how frustrating some stuff can be to come up with! But to do it through a magic trick itself? Nice thinking!

TonyB...you've got me thinking now!

Demitri. I set myself some rules 2 years ago - it had to be completely impromptu, reason being is that I'm in an environment at house parties etc at university whereby I don't go planning to perform. The last thing I want is to be drunk, get the urge, and have to go upstairs and fiddle with a magnet and a magnetic coin.
Secondly, it had to be a simple "that hand", "that hand" - not a "I will write down what hand it is in" or "I will put a coin in my hand and it will match the hand yours is in". This is because, in my mind, if you can genuinely do what you say you can do, it would be clean, simple, and not at all complex.
Thirdly, it had to be three-phase - I'm not stopping at 2!
Fouthly, and most importantly, it had to be fullproof. As though I were using a magnet, but not!

As I said...I'm at 2 phases ;)

Finally...Tomo? You've given me a funny idea...

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Postby TonyB » Jan 11th, '11, 22:10

Chris, like Craig I too assumed you meant magic holy grail, as the trick, as described, didn't sound mental. However description and performance are different things, so we stand corrected.

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Postby aporia » Jan 12th, '11, 21:24

go on, post a vid. Please.

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Postby themagicwand » Jan 12th, '11, 23:43

My holy grail would be to point an imaginary gun at someone, say "bang", and for that person to turn around looking confused as though somebody had just tapped them on the shoulder.

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Postby Randy » Jan 12th, '11, 23:51

Being able to guess the correct Lotto numbers. Then I could just retire at a young age and simply do nothing but maybe achieve my fantasy of becoming like Batman. :lol:

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Postby Tomo » Jan 13th, '11, 00:05

Oh, oh, oh! Contact mind juggling. There, that's 3 hits in one. :D

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Postby Tomo » Jan 13th, '11, 00:07

Beardy wrote:Finally...Tomo? You've given me a funny idea...

Bad boy! Dirty boy! Well done! :D

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Postby Lawrence » Jan 13th, '11, 09:41

Tomo wrote:Oh, oh, oh! Contact mind juggling. There, that's 3 hits in one. :D

ooooooh, I'm getting ideas....

.....

No, no, it's gone.

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Postby Mandrake » Jan 13th, '11, 12:16

Lawrence wrote:No, no, it's gone.
It went thataway =====>

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Postby Mr_Grue » Jan 13th, '11, 17:01

FOOLPROOF!

It's a nice choice for a Holy Grail, beardy. You've not made the usual mistake of going for something methodologically impossible that's effectively boring.

Right now, I'd just settle for mastery of verbal cuing. If I could get it 85% or above I'd be happy. Which reminds me, I must dust off my impossible card to envelope...

Simon Scott

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then the only thing left is the method.


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Postby Craig Browning » Jan 13th, '11, 17:25

Beardy... do keep in mind that the ONLY reason I don't do shows any longer is health... though I am gearing up to do Seance shows locally on a part-time basis at close to $1,000.00 a show... for audiences of 12-18 guests. So please, be careful with the gloating. :wink:

As was mentioned, your description sounds like a standard coin trick which is one reason why I reacted as I did. The other reason will be seen in the new issue of VISIONS next week. . . I've spent close to a month hearing idiots referring to countless established bits of MAGIC (like the linking rings, no less) as "Mentalism" and even found a posting of one fool referring to David Copperfield as a MENTALIST...

I know this new mentality of mentalism loves blurring the lines and breaking the walls of this and that pigeon-hole, but give me a bloody break! :twisted:

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Postby kolm » Jan 13th, '11, 20:16

Craig Browning wrote:Beardy... do keep in mind that the ONLY reason I don't do shows any longer is health... though I am gearing up to do Seance shows locally on a part-time basis at close to $1,000.00 a show... for audiences of 12-18 guests. So please, be careful with the gloating. :wink:

"Almost $1,000.00" is a way of writing "Almost $1000" and making it look big
"Almost $1000" could be as low as $700
$700 is £443

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Postby eveningzoo » Jan 14th, '11, 03:18

now thats magic :P

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Postby Part-Timer » Jan 14th, '11, 23:49

Bronze grail - actually get through my backlog of books and DVDs.
Silver grail - finish my pet project.
Gold grail - be as good at readings as Scott Grossberg.

By the way, the deleted post I referred to above referred to a rather tiresome ramble about the Holy Grail. I decided that it simply wasn't that interesting. :)

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Postby Craig Browning » Jan 15th, '11, 20:16

kolm wrote:
Craig Browning wrote:Beardy... do keep in mind that the ONLY reason I don't do shows any longer is health... though I am gearing up to do Seance shows locally on a part-time basis at close to $1,000.00 a show... for audiences of 12-18 guests. So please, be careful with the gloating. :wink:

"Almost $1,000.00" is a way of writing "Almost $1000" and making it look big
"Almost $1000" could be as low as $700
$700 is £443

I thank you


Ok smarty pants... Admission to the Seance is $135.00 per guest, YOU DO THE MATH! :lol:

BTW... I was just asked by the owners of the establishment to start doing a more regular public program and not just the private functions. . . not bad for an old broken down has been wouldn't you say? :roll:

And Lest We Forget. . . even on the heavily reduced schedule I was still turning an easy $35.00 per head just 5 years ago when I was working another area facility once a month with a "Psychic Night"

The income is not sufficient to live on because I simply can't do the level of work at the frequency I'd have to, to fully support myself. To get completely off government assistance and still maintain my current level of health care and living status I'd have to NET over $5,500.00 a month. . . that's after taxes. . . I simply cannot hold to that sort of schedule so I no longer try. So the next time you wish to be smug and act like a smatazz, THINK A BIT FIRST about what you're saying and how it may look to others that know the greater sense of things.

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