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Heavy on the Magik wrote:Is there anywhere you can learn this move? Other than DB's Picturebook ?

James Brown shows it brfiefly as an alternative to a cull on one of the volumes of Proffesional Opportunist. I think it is an option for his trick Caught Three times

twistedjester wrote:

Edantes wrote:The sleight you mention is Dai Vernon's Multiple Shift.

Actually its called D'Amico multiple shift its explained and shown on jeff mcbrides the art of card manipulation volume 1

Is it? Missed that bit then!

Ta muchly Mr Whizz!

Johnny Wizz wrote:

Heavy on the Magik wrote:Is there anywhere you can learn this move? Other than DB's Picturebook ?

James Brown shows it brfiefly as an alternative to a cull on one of the volumes of Proffesional Opportunist. I think it is an option for his trick Caught Three times

Ah yes, so he does!

Personally I could never get to grips with it, I prefer the Elias Multiple Shift which looks like you push the cards flush then give a single swing cut. I picked up the handling from John Bannon's book Dear Mr Fantasy although it's doubtless taught in other places.

I also thought the shift you are asking about was a Vernon thing.

R

Anyway you could pm how that differs to this one Mr Robb? Have tried the above and though fully practical its going to take some work and maybe a new deck as when i try this with more than one card half the deck shifts with the movement - im guessing my cards aint slippery enough.

Plus that and im probably missing a vital finger position to maintain grip on all the cards!

Heavy on the Magik wrote:Have tried the above and though fully practical its going to take some work and maybe a new deck as when i try this with more than one card half the deck shifts with the movement - im guessing my cards aint slippery enough.

Are you talking about the Vernon Shift here ? I cant see how that could happen Where are you learning it from ?

jim

EDIT : Ive just realised what you may mean Are you forgetting to use the left pinkie ?

Robbie wrote:The Devil's Picturebook is advanced material, but at least it can give you something to aim for. Sometimes it's good to be exposed to things beyond your current reach.

There's more to it than just a list of tricks. You can absorb some very good information about style and presentation. I too would say go for it if you can afford it. It's WAY beyond my technical expertise, but I find it both enjoyable and inspiring.

I agree. TDP is not for beginners but contains some truly astonishing material and great advice in general, not to mention entertainment value. Without a doubt, it is worth every penny. And yes, the sleight you're after is on TDP.

cc100, TDP is worth the price for the entertainment alone, particularly if you are a Derren Brown fan at all. Which one would guess you are, as you've just read what's basically his autobiog. *grins*

The move in question is show in enough detail in TDP for you to start practising it.

I've been recently practicing it myself, and as DaveM says, it does seem a bit awkward looking at first.

DB covers it during "down beat" where he jokes to the three audience members about making sure they remember their cards.

Or they'll get such a smack.

I was just watching this last night. He doesn't cover the shift in huge details, but enough to get it after a couple of views.

I know what slight you're talking about too from the Devil's Picturebook and off the top of my head I think he credits Lennart Green for it on the dvd, although I know that Dai Vernon has done this and no dout a few others too. I don't think it's too difficult to do, although I think it does help to "misdirect" the spectators by talking to them while you do the shift.

As for the Devil's Picturebook, I do think that it's definatly not a starter dvd, but like others have said, even if you're not at that level yet, it's still a great watch and you can get so much more from it than just the effects. When I got my copy, I wasn't quite up to some of them, but every now and then I'll watch back, and give some a try and over time I managed to get them, as for his explaining of the moves, I think that the only one that is a tough lesson is his first effect on the first disk, but if you watch that first, then the others seem like a walk in the park. Great dvd though, and even talking about it makes me want to watch it again.