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by **Sam Kennedy** » Aug 6th, '11, 17:48

These are the card tricks which I can perform, what skill level would you say I am at, and which tricks should I be looking at next?

Heart of the city
Play it straight
Blank'd
White Bikes
Ultimate 3 card monte
Rising Card Deck
Strangers Gallery
The lost card trick
Printers Wild
What's mine is mine
Card Toon
Kids Kards
Hollow
ID
Cheek to Cheek
Colour Monte
Disappearing Cards + Case
Royal Oil
Anywhere Cards!

by **Duplicity** » Aug 6th, '11, 17:52

Depends on how well you perform and present them to me. I'd rather be shown three card tricks performed in an interesting and engaging way, than sit through a huge set of mediocrity, nodding and smiling politely.

by **jim ferguson** » Aug 6th, '11, 17:56

Hi Sam. I agree with Duplicity, its hard to say without actually seeing anything being performed. You could perform the effects brilliantly or bumble your way through them, we have no way of knowing.

How long have you been learning ?

jim

by **jim ferguson** » Aug 6th, '11, 18:07

Ive just noticed almost all the effects you've listed are dealer items. Have you studied any books or anything - is Play it Straight the triumph effect from Impossibillia ? A few decent books will serve you far better (and be alot cheaper) than buying individual tricks.

jim

by **gunnarkr** » Aug 6th, '11, 18:40

It's better to perform one trick perfectly than ten tricks terribly!
In other word's, it's impossible to rate a magician from a list of tricks.

by **hds02115** » Aug 6th, '11, 18:42

I'll agree with these two also. It's all about quality over quantity in magic. Of course if you can perform lots at a high standard, that's great, but you would be better off learning one effect to a high performance level, then moving to the next rather than rushing to learn as many as possible. The old saying, finish this chocolate bar before you start another.

Anyway, it would be hard to tell what kind of level you're at without seeing a performance, but I would probably say that if you have to ask this question, you're probably not pro just yet.

As for the subject of only knowing brought tricks, I agree, it would serve you much better to get a couple of good books rather than loads of single effect dvds, not to mention easier on your wallet. Plus a couple of good books would give you the building blocks to creat your own magic. You tend to only learn the one or two slights involved in that effect of you buy them individually.

by **Lawrence** » Aug 6th, '11, 18:51

We cannot judge based on a list of tricks.
Try posting videos of you performing them and we can evaluate better

by **hds02115** » Aug 6th, '11, 18:56

Lawrence wrote:We cannot judge based on a list of tricks.
Try posting videos of you performing them and we can evaluate better

Performing them in the real world, real people, not to the web cam.

by **Lawrence** » Aug 6th, '11, 19:06

hds02115 wrote:
Lawrence wrote:We cannot judge based on a list of tricks.
Try posting videos of you performing them and we can evaluate better

Performing them in the real world, real people, not to the web cam.

Bingo!

by **Alec Burns** » Aug 6th, '11, 19:19

What a strange question! :shock:

I agree with everything said but would like to add a little if I may!? (if not, don't read on)

You have listed ID as something you can perform. The ID is a utility not a trick on it's own. There are literally hundreds of uses for an ID and dare I say that it can be utilised in some way or another with nearly every card trick that's out there.

If you own a lot of pre arranged presentational effects, try and dress them up in your own style. Change the patter and the presentation to suit your style. One card trick will be performed differently by many different people. Sometimes so drastically that you wouldn't recognise it as the same trick.

Enter the competitions that are run here monthly. They are a great way of testing yourself and also showcasing your magic to the members here. I must warn you that votes are normally cast in favour of enjoyment rather than technical know how.

by **jim ferguson** » Aug 6th, '11, 19:37

Alec Kobain wrote:Enter the competitions that are run here monthly. They are a great way of testing yourself and also showcasing your magic to the members here.

by **Alec Burns** » Aug 6th, '11, 20:14

jim ferguson wrote:
Alec Kobain wrote:Enter the competitions that are run here monthly. They are a great way of testing yourself and also showcasing your magic to the members here.
You do realise you're not on the Bunny at the moment ?

Oh god!

Taxi for one please, taxi for one.

I'll not edit that as a warning to others lol

by **Duplicity** » Aug 6th, '11, 21:55

Alec Kobain wrote:You have listed ID as something you can perform. The ID is a utility not a trick on it's own.

I'm afraid that simply isn't true. The ID and Brainwave has been use as the "trick" for many, many presentations throughout the years. Dunninger even paid for the exclusive rights of the Brainwave for a year it was (and is) that powerful.

by **Sam Kennedy** » Aug 6th, '11, 21:58

jim ferguson wrote:Ive just noticed almost all the effects you've listed are dealer items. Have you studied any books or anything - is Play it Straight the triumph effect from Impossibillia ? A few decent books will serve you far better (and be alot cheaper) than buying individual tricks.
jim

These are tricks I've acquired from ages 7 to around 11, I'm just getting back into magic now (I'm 18 now).

Yeah play it straight is from the Impossibilia video. I'm also working my way through Card College.

I wasn't thinking about being pro, I'm just not sure on the difference betweem amateur hobbyist and skilled hobbyist :?:

by **TonyB** » Aug 7th, '11, 00:26

Sam, I am a fifteen year pro, and I don't know a fraction of that amount of card magic. The secret is to know a few things brilliantly.

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