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backwards start...

Postby gnoff » May 14th, '05, 22:40



Hey everone! im kinda new to magic, but have been reading your fourms for a week or two, and was wondering if someone could help me out...

i kinda learned magic backwards you might say, as my first trick was the kings rising levitation, rather than some slight of hand or card trick. ive been reading about TT's, and recently purchased one off of ebay. the problem is that it is way to noticible, as i have tan skin. the TT is very light, is there any paint that someone would reccommend, im not sure spray paint would work, and im worried that acrylic paint would flake, because of the constent bending and movement.

thanks! :D

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Postby GoldFish » May 14th, '05, 23:06

Hi gnoff, welcome to Talk Magic :). First of all let me say that there is no need to worry about learning magic "backwards". Everybody has to start somewhere and the King Rising is a very cool place to start. I doubt there has ever been a magician who has started their magic career by sitting down and learning sleight of hand. Everybody in this game has started by being inspired by something and then moving on from there. It's true that you will have to deal with some sleight of hand at some point but that all depends on where you want to go with your magic and what you want to achieve.

As for the TT, don't worry about skin tone. The famous "magician's magician", Daryl, once performed a TT routine with a flourecent TT. Nobody picked up on it until he revealed it. He did that to illustrate a point; the TT is not a prop that is meant to be seen. It is a utility device which allows you to perform amazing things but when it comes down to it, its just a fake bit of plastic and not a substitue for the real thing.

I suggest that you get hold of some sort of TT instructional material. There's loads of booklets, books and even DVDs which are dedicated to this fantastic prop. Gary Darwin has recently published a 3 disc DVD set called Darwin's Encyclopedia of TT Magicwhich can be found here. There's also plently of cheaper booklets out there such as 101 TT Tricks, also by Gary Darwin. These are great sources of TT knowledge and should set you in good stead. Good luck :)

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Postby Mandrake » May 14th, '05, 23:27

Welcome to TM, take careful note of what Goldfish said as he's phrased it all very accurately and concisely.

My personal opinion is that magic is a place with infinite doors and there's no right or wrong way in. Some folks get in via mentalism, others by cards, or coins and others by a simple desire to entertain and amaze.

Backwards is fine - at least you can see where you've been and you keep the dust out of your eyes while you're travelling!

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Postby gnoff » May 16th, '05, 02:45

thanks guys, ive never heard of the florecent TT thing, thats really funny. ill also look into the dvd thing, i saw a magic show where the guy did some really amazing stuff with a TT, and it looks like somithing worthwhile to invest in

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Postby Mandrake » May 16th, '05, 09:23

There's a great selection on http://www.cards4magic.co.uk/acatalog/Thumb_Tips.html but scroll down and check out their 'camouflage tip!

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