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quick... edit your post then before someone sees it! then i can take the blame for everything. oh yeh, we dont need to use your palm... i am sure there will be more than enough condidates should Mark agree to become involved.

MagicTom wrote:i'd rather not take part in it if its happening.
I simply asked a question. I was not involving myself in this idea.

Spoken like a true bounder Tom, I'm proud of you (have you ever thought of a job in politics)?

[Flash scuttles back under the table, pausing briefly to gaze longingly at his abandoned pint]

[leighton peeps around the door to see what is going on, he can't enter the room due to one hand being stuck in the scanner]

Tom thinks in regret and decided not to look at this thread.






YCssA NI TOdHRE TERfASD

(its hard typing from under table)

Good God! I left the computer for a short while to sleep and I woke up to find that there have been half a million replies.

I haven't had time to read them all properly but I would certainly agree with Mandrake. I do not want this to develop into a fight about psychic stuff. I merely want it to be a lesson in palmistry.

Bobby Cat seems to have missed another thread that I started where I offered to answer his questions about palmistry. Or at least I think he missed it. I had better check. I have just woken up.

With regard to Magic Tom's question about whether two palmists would come up with the same reading without consulting with each other I imagine it would be quite possible if they use the same interpretation of the lines, mounts and general appearance of the hand. I am sure the wording would be different though.

However it would be dependent on the individual palmist. If the two palmists followed different systems or if one was a fake and the other wasn't then the readings would be different.

It would also not be fair to expect Craig to do palm readings since he has already stated that he would have to "brush up on it". If sceptical people were to cast aspersions on his accuracy they would be taking unfair advantage in my opinion.

I haven't read this thread properly but if it involves challenges of some sort you can count me out. I never respond to challenges unless people pay in advance.

I will however point out that for a magician to be able to do even short readings is a tremendous advantage. I have often been booked to do boat cruises with magic and I have developed a format which allows me to do palmistry after the show. I do an hour of walk around close up magic at the beginning of the cruise, then after dinner (buffet style) I do a 20 to 30 minute cabaret spot and announce during the act that afterwards I will be available to do short palm readings at no charge in a quiet corner later.

The readings are the hit of the evening. I have been told by the booker that they have often been approached by other magicians to do these cruises but since they don't do palm readings like I do they always prefer me. Since I am stuck on the boat for 4 hours and can't get off anyway I might as well fill up the time with something commercial. And I can assure you that there is nothing more commercial than palm reading. Or any kind of psychic reading come to that.

I haven't read this thread properly but I can't see myself doing readings for everyone here. The very fact that they are all excited about it proves that palmistry is popular since everyone wants to know about themselves. Egomaniac magicians especially.

However I don't see how I could do too much in the way of readings. Even if I were being paid to do it I couldn't do it by typing in a reading. It would be unbelievably time consuming. However what I said was true. I can do the reading without knowing who the palm print belongs to. In fact this is what I have often done to get press publicity.

Now here is a tip when dealing with the press. This will get you far more space than you would normally get. If they phone you up and ask about your psychic ability tell them that you read palms and suggest to them this little dodge. Tell them to procure the palm prints of 3 celebrities. They can be of anyone in the news -politicians, sports stars, pop stars-it matters not. The prints should be subnmitted to you without you knowing who they belong to. You read the palms according to palmistry lore and submit them back to the paper who will print your readings and reveal who the celebrities are in print.

Of course you have to have studied palmistry first. On no account should you try that garbage that Ian Rowland writes. Do it for real. That is always the best way.

Here is my point. Because you have mentioned celebrities the press write up will be far larger than if you hadn't. The article will be HUGE with photos of the celebrities and you might get a photo of yourself although don't be surprised if you don't. It is the celebrity angle that brings in the size of the article. You will get FAR more space than if you just read the hand of the reporter although you can do that too if you want.

Since I have a scan of Ecko Zero's hand I might do a write up of it here if I get time and I feel in the mood. Nobody else please.

On the other hand (no pun intended) if you are impressed with EckoZero's reading some of you may wish to send to me by mail a photocopy of your hand. I would then send back a cassette tape with the reading. However I would require money. We could discuss that later.

After all I would'nt want any of you to think I have a mercenary nature. I am a spiritual being after all.

I notice that Bobby Cat has not confirmed that he has few lines on his hand. Perhaps he has- perhaps he hasn't. It would be interesting to see if I am correct or not.

I was indeed correct when I said that Eckozero had short fingers and that he had a gap between his head line and life line. I find that quick tempered and impatient persons often do. Impulsive and outspoken people always have this characteristic. That is how I knew.

I derived my suspicion that Bobbycat and Craig both had inflexible thumbs because you are both as bloody stubborn as each other. Interestingly enough cops and military people often have this characteristic in their hands. Incidentally you would be amazed at how often police officers come to psychics not to investigate them but because they genuinely believe in it.

As to what Bobby cat does for a living or how old he is I haven't the slightest idea. What does he think I am? Psychic?

I must say that on the short amount of time I have spent here on TM, Mark Lewis & Craig Browning have imparted more knowledge in their postings than all the books I slavishly purchase from Amazon. Truly inspiring.

To this end, after a 10 year absence from the reading tables, I have just returned from my first face-to-face tarot reading. The woman was delighted and paid me in cash - which is always a bonus. Thanks to Craig & Mark I have now realised that magic & magik (for want of better terms) can live quite happily together, sometimes even within the same act. By re-introducing the tarot readings, my bookings are now looking a lot healthier than when I relied on table-hopping (and the occassional kids party) alone.

I have also received my first booking for a new table-hopping format. I have dubbed this "gothic magic & psychic illussion". Rather than the normal table-hopping, these small performaces include a trick-or-two using the tarot rather than "normal" cards, followed by a real tarot reading. Yes, it's all a bit bizzare-esque, but the tarot reading is real rather than cold (or even hot) reading. The booking is with a specialist gothic nightclub called Batfink, and I'm hopeful it will be the springboard for great things in the future. Plus I get to live out my Addams Family fantasies!

On the subject of cold reading (and hot reading too) - I've found that trying to combine cold readings, hot readings, and straight tarot readings leads only to disappointment. The reading becomes fuzzy, blurred and unsatisfactory. How anyone can use cold & hot reading and expect impressive results is beyond me. Far better to go in blind and just let the cards speak.

Anyway, great posts everyone. Me like!

Mark, I look forward to your reading, although I must say, I am not as impatient as you might think - as a matter of fact, it takes quite a lot to anger me, so I'm not horrendously short tempered either...

In your defence, I WILL say that I used to have these characteristics, howevere I have worked on eliminating them from myself.

Still, the reading should be interesting

[Costas cannot sustain his excitement any longer and falls out from his hiding place behind the curtain. He stumbles towards Mr Lewis almost tripping over Flash’s camera, which was poking out from underneath the table]

Please Sir Lewis, do mine! What do my palms look like?

...think i would have to shave my palms before i go for any kind of reading..

costas wrote:[almost tripping over Flash’s camera, which was poking out from underneath the table]

That wasn't my camera!

[Flash winces in excrutiating pain]

abraxus wrote:...think i would have to shave my palms before i go for any kind of reading..

Oh we have a madman amongst us!

Sorry Flashy! Gee and I thought I was excited !