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Postby Dominick » Aug 31st, '06, 21:54



But he wasn't selling that. He revealed it himself.

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Postby homsar » Aug 31st, '06, 22:04

Ya, but now that trick is also ruined.

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Postby i1011i » Aug 31st, '06, 22:57

Dominick wrote:But he wasn't selling that. He revealed it himself.


It also wasn't his trick. It was originated by Luke Jermay. (If it is the trick I think it is.) But then again, Luke Jermay consults for his show.

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Postby Mikey.666 » Sep 1st, '06, 19:00

well.
ya gotta think of it. there are alot of "tricks" and "sleights" out there. loads of different versions aswell.

it's impossible to copy right a trick really, cuz you could just change the routine ever so slightly. and it wouldn't be the same.

so yeh. in reality, there's know way around it.

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Postby Renato » Sep 1st, '06, 19:34

True, but that's still no reason for people to rip off the creators.

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Postby Dominick » Sep 1st, '06, 20:21

True, but that's still no reason for people to rip off the creators.


That's exactly right! That's like writing a book that's already been written, just with a different title.

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Postby Demitri » Sep 1st, '06, 20:31

i1011i wrote:
Dominick wrote:But he wasn't selling that. He revealed it himself.


It also wasn't his trick. It was originated by Luke Jermay. (If it is the trick I think it is.) But then again, Luke Jermay consults for his show.


Luke Jermay didn't invent the effect, either. That particular variation may be his, but the method has been around for a long time.

I wouldn't so much call what has been done on Criss Angel flat-out exposure. It's more a portal to get younger members of his audience interested in learning magic on their own.

The trick is not ruined, however. To prove that, I even performed the EXACT lipstick effect on a group of young ladies who thought it was amazing. 4 of the women in the group later remembered they had seen it on the TV, but they didn't think of it while it was happening. You'd be surprised how quickly a casual interest can fade completely.

Johnny Thompson also revealed the method behind the 3 shell game on Mindfreak. Is anyone REALLY going to attack someone of his caliber for "exposing" a trick?

It all comes down to WHY the method is revealed. In the case of Criss Angel, I feel it's to boost interest from casual TV watching to actually getting into the art. In the case of Johnny Thompson, it was revealing how street hustlers scam others.

I find these situations to be completely separate from the You Tube videos. I'm sure in some cases, the tutorials weren't intended to be viewed by the general public, but the nature of You Tube left them out in the open for anyone to find.

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Postby magicmonkey » Sep 2nd, '06, 03:19

revealing your own creations on youtube well that's fine to a point, your own choice and desision i guess, however, revealing the creations of somebody else as your own as in the case of paul harris' work which others have paid a fair whack for is b*ll*cks

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