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Postby Miles More Magic » Sep 10th, '06, 23:59



This forum is full of people who will try to help you. Please remember, you need to help first.

Don't post:

I want to learn tricks for free.

How do you do? (name of trick here)


These questions will only make people here think you are only after the secrets, without wanting to spend time or money on magic. You will not get any polite answers.


Do post an introduction in the correct forum. Make sure you let us know what type of magic you are into and what stage you are at. It doesn't matter if you have only been interested a week. That information will help people advise you better.

Some posts could be taken as someone only after secrets. It could be that you worded it wrong. An introduction will let us know you are genuine.

If you are having problems with something, use the search function.
If you can't find the answer, then ask. Don't reveal how something is done, but let us know what part you are having problems with. As a newcomer, be prepared to describe what you have by PM to someone. This will enable that person to know you do own that effect and they are better able to go through methods with you.
Remember, Magicians never reveal their secrets. It is to keep magic magical to the audience.

Please remember that whether you have bought a gimmick, or spent months practicing sleights, don't rush to show an effect. You need to be able to PERFORM it. A badly performed effect will only cause these things to happen:

Reveal the effect to the audience.
Get an " I saw that" response.
Bore your audience, as it isn't entertaining.
Dent your confidence, making you believe you can't do magic.

If you are here after secrets, you will go away disappointed.

If you have a genuine pasion or need for help, welcome.

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Postby Stephen Ward » Sep 11th, '06, 00:01

What a great post that is, but they are not going to listen you know! :lol:

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Postby Miles More Magic » Sep 11th, '06, 00:07

At least they can't complain when we tell them where to go!

It is also worth remembering for all the members. When I read some of the "how" posts, I read any other (if any) posts by that member. It helps decide if it is from someone genuine, getting the phrasing wrong. Thats why you will see some of my posts telling them where to go, but other times I will PM the person to get them to phrase the question again.

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Postby cordenadam » Sep 11th, '06, 11:07

you should also add into that about new members learning magic, saying buy RRTCM, and Bobos book. gets a bit boring having people im new to magic where do i start..........good post, and your right they wont read it.

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Postby Misanthropy » Sep 11th, '06, 12:26

cordenadam wrote:you should also add into that about new members learning magic, saying buy RRTCM, and Bobos book. gets a bit boring having people im new to magic where do i start..........good post, and your right they wont read it.


They have getting started in magic a disorganised guide for that but I think this thread should be made sticky as well or new members should have to read this as part of the rules before joining.

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Postby cordenadam » Sep 11th, '06, 12:53

And answer a quiz on it to make sure they have read it. :D

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Postby dat8962 » Sep 11th, '06, 22:33

A quiz is great or they have to register with their credit card which will be debited with the price of the effect that they ask for - if asked for it for free :lol:

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Postby killerfroggy » Sep 12th, '06, 00:44

They should have to sign up with a form signed in thier own blood and send a video in to prove them doing it. Of course if they knew some things they could do this with out harming themselves but at least it would put some people off. Maybe some sort off oath that they would have to to agree to would be good also. Being fairly new myself im happy to do either/all as well :)

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