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Postby Cristhian Bustos » Sep 19th, '06, 07:07



I think exactly the same way than Dimitri. I think that the incongruity in the Scharzman subtlety in the tilt illusion is something you must work. You´re trying to make them believe that the card is in the middle by the subtlety and cuz you´re holding the card face up. But that´s not the right way to do it. Why? Dimitri says: Why would you say that's about the middle, then pull it out? Exactly. You´re a thinker men, you have a very good idea, but maybe you should change the way you do it, and create, for example an Convincing accidental element.

Let´s see. you do the second (?) revelation of the card on top, you show the card, if you create the right atmosphere, this second revelation must be follow by a moment of easing (tension-easing) and you turn the card face up and say something like: the card always jumps to top of the deck is unbelievable, so when you say this you take the top card in your right hand, and without looking you start to put the card in the middle, so when you look to your hand, you are already doing the scharzman subtlety with the card face up (the diference is: this is an accidental way to do exactly the same thing you want) now, without hesitation, and without any kind of comments like: Oh, the card is face up in the middle of the deck!!!. I mean, you´re talking you start to buried the card, but you do it in the wrong way. What do you do? turn the card face down and buried, without any comment.

I don´t know, this is only a example, i think you must create you´re own ways to do it. And in this example you´re create a logical situation to remove the card for the middle in the subtlety... i mean, the card was face up!... I hope you understand that is way i think, its only mi perception, don´t take it like a lesson or something, ok? :) ...

Another think is in the beginning in the rifflle, when you do a force, any kind of force, and you need to move a card from top to the middle of the deck, you must do a pass, or any other technique with no external life. Dai vernon advice.

During your rutine you move the center of attention (your hands) from one way to other, you change the position of your body all the time cuz you´re changing all the times the foot of support, when you practice the next time take a piece of paper and cut it of diagonally, and then put your foots in that position ( in the V shape) that makes that one leg is more bend that the other so is avoiding the movement form one way to another.

I think you must do all the phases more slowly. The ACR has something that only a few others card tricks have: the posibility of a progresive repetition. So the clarity is very important in the explanatory phase. I hope some of my ideas could help you. If you have troubles to understand is because my english is not very good...

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Postby Jerome the French » Sep 19th, '06, 09:51

Advice:
Create paragraphs.
That is just unreadable, mate.

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Postby EckoZero » Sep 19th, '06, 11:45

Demitiri, thanks for the advice and comments. As usual they're typically objective and nothing personal. So thanks :D

As for the "other" break flashing I honestly didn't notice that until I'd posted it. The Marlo tilt is one of those moves that possibly isn't the strongest part of my ACR, but the reason I completely remove the card is a little subtlety I use because I find it hard to not look like I've removed it. By creating the push with the card face up, I then have a reason to take the card out (ie to turn it back face down) and then insert fully.

Wipe off signature is another of those moves, looks cripplingly dodgy to mages but is loved by lay audiences (at least the way i perform it which, as rightly pointed out, could probably use a few more hours practice).

As for the paperclipped ending, I'll normally put it on the table before the routine actually begins and mention it then, however, this is not possible on a video whereby I have no sound.

In this video it does have no meaning or weight, you're right. But this isn't a video that was meant for laypeople to be entertained by, it was more of a video to show you fellow mages what I'm doing when I pull of an ACR and so you all have a bit of an idea what mine looks like.

One day I'll get a DV camera and actually have this shot doing live to a real person, but for now, the dodgy deck-at-eye-level videos will have to do I'm afraid :(

You wont find much better anywhere and it's nothing - a rigmarole with a few bits of paper and lots of spiel. That is Mentalism

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Postby lindz » Sep 19th, '06, 15:19

Nice ACR looked good keep it up

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Postby Demitri » Sep 19th, '06, 15:54

And what you showed was excellent. Thank you for not taking anything I said on a personal level. I realize that my comments sometimes may come off in the wrong light - but at no point did I intend to disregard your performance on any level.

I'm a huge fan of your videos, as you already know. I simply offer all that I can, in the hopes that maybe SOMETHING that spits past these lips actually makes a bit of sense.

I figured the lack of explanation for the paperclipped sequence was because of no sound, and I should have figured you covered this in live performance. Get that camera soon, I'd love to see your spectator reactions!

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Postby EckoZero » Sep 19th, '06, 16:27

Heh heh. Don't worry mate, you'vebeen a great help in my time on the boards!

Most of what you say makes sense, as long as you look at them in the objective light they're meant (I learnt long ago you're not a spiteful person who makes personal atacks :D ). So your input is greatly appreciated!

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Postby missed it » Sep 19th, '06, 18:02

loved your acr

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Postby EckoZero » Sep 19th, '06, 21:38

Thanks to lindz and missed it for your nice comments :D

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Postby Speed » Oct 11th, '06, 21:16

Dang, very nice. :oops: i really want to learn it. :)



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Postby EckoZero » Oct 12th, '06, 21:32

Why thank you :D

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Postby EckoZero » Oct 12th, '06, 21:33

[edit] Oops! Double post. [/edit]

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