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Quality TT

Postby Mirage38 » Jan 6th, '04, 16:37



I have purchased many TTs in the past & have no problems when performing, but like many magicians I am looking for one that would match my skin tone a bit better, does anybody know of a quality TT on the market.

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Postby magicdiscoman » Jan 6th, '04, 16:44

do a search and you will find a long thread about TT tone which should help as with stockings tt come in flesh nutral which as we all know dos'nt match anyone :lol:

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Postby BaBaBoom » Jan 6th, '04, 16:50

I was asking this a while ago, not sure of the thread though.
If I remember right the opinion was that it could be green as the point is that aren't meant to be seen, but not having got into TT before I was a little paramoid about it as I have a perma-tan, lol.

http://www.worldmagicshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=209&osCsid=bf6b845cd998aa93010806fd115be659

I went for that in the end, doesn't match but I took the advice I guess.
There is a thread on here somewhere on different shades advice, maybe somebody will point you in the right direction.
Hope that helps,
BaB

EDIT :
aha, ole quick hands got me again :)

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Postby seige » Jan 6th, '04, 16:55

Deep, deep sigh...

How long is a piece of string?

Sorry to sound negative - but if you're concerned at all about TT colour matching your skin tone, you're doing something wrong.

This has been discussed at length on the forum here:
http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... b+tip+tone

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Postby Happy Toad » Jan 6th, '04, 17:05

Surely Seige, despite it being argued it could be Green, an attempt has been made by manufacturers to have a tip that looks like a thumb. They chose not to make them Green for that very reason. They also may be more effective for fitting things in if they were twice as big but again they have made attempts as far as possible to make it look like the end of a thumb in size, shape and colour. Now I assume this is because it helps if it is disguised. Therefore if your going to get a TT and have a choice of shade, does it not make sense to try and get one that most closely resembles your own colour?

OK, head down and in my bunker :)

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Postby fletch » Jan 6th, '04, 17:17

I would suspect that part of the point of having a TT which is "disguised" as the genuine article (a few non-obscure references have been made on this thread as to what the disguise is... bit naughty maybe?) is to give the operator confidence in the article not being seen, rather than have any genuine affect on the specs seeing it. The colour doesn't matter a bit as far as I can see, it's about the angles. If you show the join, you give it away, if you get your angles right and are reasonably slick with the manoevres then it doesn't matter a bit.

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Postby seige » Jan 6th, '04, 17:21

fletch wrote:I would suspect that part of the point of having a TT which is "disguised" as the genuine article (a few non-obscure references have been made on this thread as to what the disguise is... bit naughty maybe?) is to give the operator confidence in the article not being seen, rather than have any genuine affect on the specs seeing it. The colour doesn't matter a bit as far as I can see, it's about the angles. If you show the join, you give it away, if you get your angles right and are reasonably slick with the manoevres then it doesn't matter a bit.


Took the words out of my mouth...

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Postby Happy Toad » Jan 6th, '04, 18:28

Even if that were true then increased confidence would be gained by a better colour match.

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Postby bananafish » Jan 6th, '04, 18:38

Even if that were true then increased confidence would be gained by a better colour match.


Hippy Toast, you are right about the confidence thing, that is always going to help - but you know the colour really isn't the big issue, and the more you use a TT the more confident you will get with it.

In reality no magician would really dream of using a green TT except maybe to make a point, but the colour really doesn't need to be matched that closely.

There are some great discussions in this forum on best ways of using the TT, and if the tips supplied are followed then it is unlikely that the TT will ever cause the least bit of suspicion.

In saying that though I do agree that confidence with a TT is a fundamental partt of using it and so if you feel more confident with a better colour match then try to find one you like.

At the recent Ipswich Magic Convention, the Card Collection had a stand and they had about 40 on display - so you could really go to town on choosing the best one. I bought a couple, but will admit that colour wasn't my main issue - I was more interested in the size, and how easily it slipped off and on.

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Postby jugglemonkey » Jan 6th, '04, 19:47

Isnt the look/colour important as it is nearly always in view by the specs? i mean one of the main points of using a TT is to be able to show your palms empty thus giving you no cover to hide the "green" TT?
If colour or size didnt mater surely you could use a hollow "ping pong ball"(thinking of the ball sometimes used to produce hankerchiefs not sure on the name)?
I agree that colour dosnt have to be exact, but atleast some kind of flesh colour?

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Postby seige » Jan 6th, '04, 19:52

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Postby magicdiscoman » Jan 6th, '04, 20:12

woo whooo mega add pops on this one but all the same some sound advice and worth a look.

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Postby mistress of magic » Jan 6th, '04, 22:54

Oh, by the way, I tried your suggestion magicdiscoman
you've missed something under your nose miss how about make up.

Didn't really work well so I wouldn't advise it, unless your planning on using a heck of a lot of make up and then using more on your hand to get an even colour, and it's a bit difficult to wash off. I've still to try my homebase paint scanner idea, but really don't need to, my TT tone is a quite a bit darker than my skin, (not as much as my d'lites though!), but no one has ever noticed my TT.

I have purchased many TTs in the past & have no problems when performing, but like many magicians I am looking for one that would match my skin tone a bit better

If you have no problems performing, why do you need one that matches your skin tone better?

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Postby nickj » Jan 7th, '04, 01:59

Another post on the same lines realy, my TT is nothing like the colour of my skin and the way I perform I make no effort to keep it out of view as you would have to if you used the theoretical green one, however, I have naver beend spotted for this reason. I was spotted once though when I failed to notice someone standing behind me when doing money morph, fortunately I got away with it using the old 'Smile and a wink' method of saying "keep your mouth shut or the heavies'll get ya as soon as you leave here."

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Postby Mirage38 » Jan 7th, '04, 10:49

Thanks for all your advice & links over my original question.

Siege wrote:-

Deep, deep sigh...

How long is a piece of string?

Sorry to sound negative - but if you're concerned at all about TT colour matching your skin tone, you're doing something wrong.

Siege & the others are absolutely right that any colour TT could be used & that if I am performing correctly I should not worry & to date I have never been caught so I must be performing correctly, I should have explained in more detail that the problem I have is for a particular routine when I have to use two TTs although again I have not been caught I am always worried that I drop my guard trying to remember all my angles & one TT is exposed for that slight second, sometimes I feel that I am performing with 6” thumbs its all in my mind I have never worried before, I think I will spray mine canary yellow to keep me on the ball, does anyone know where I can get some decent marked bicycle cards (only joking).

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