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Last night, I read the description of the Mexican Turnover (in Overcoming Magic Hazards) at least 20 times (I kid you not) and I have no idea what he's talking about.

Can someone point me to another source or PM be a better description?

ask this guy, he might be able to help

I think in order to see what's going on you need to firstly understand the mechanics of the effect.

It's basically a move for exchanging two cards, one tabled, one in your hand.

Here's a sample:
A spectator has selected, signed and returned a card to the deck. The deck is shuffled thoroughly by the magician, and handed to the spectator, who is asked to deal cards down until they feel happy, then deal a single card to themselves.
The card they deal to themselves is kept in front of them, and the magician takes the remainder of the deck and shuffles it again, spreading the cards out to show the spectator had a free choice.
The magician turns over the spectator's card at fingertips, he doesnt even touch it: and it's their signed selection.


This effect is achieved with the MT.

The mechanics are, the signed selected card is controlled and kept on the bottom of the deck, even when handed to the spectator. The spectator stops at any random card, and has it in front of them.

During the second shuffle, the magician brings the signed card to the top and spreads the deck face-up, hiding the top card. He then turns over the deck and using the top face-down card (the selection) he turns over the spectator's card using the MT... which transposes the two.

Now... hopefully that helps with the explanation!

Lady of Mystery wrote:ask this guy, he might be able to help

I'm assuming that you don't know an MT then Lady, or is this meant to be humourous?

Lady of Mystery wrote:ask this guy, he might be able to help

He was about as useful as your post. Thanks.

Cheers seige, but that's the bit I understood. It's a very short description of the mechanics that's causing me a problem. I think I have an idea, but as he says in the book, he did it wrong for years until someone showed him how to do it properly. So I'm a little concerned about getting it right.

seige wrote:

Lady of Mystery wrote:ask this guy, he might be able to help

I'm assuming that you don't know an MT then Lady, or is this meant to be humourous?

Leave me alone, I'm having a bad day

scarne has some work on it, in a little booklet...only a couple of quid from cards4magic...3 card monte...photos are a little dull and b&w though...

Lady of Mystery wrote:Leave me alone, I'm having a bad day

Please have your bad day in someone else's thread.

Marvell wrote:

Lady of Mystery wrote:Leave me alone, I'm having a bad day

Please have your bad day in someone else's thread.

Don't let her hijack again! Just ignore...

The mexican turnover is used a lot in 3 card monte. Maybe you could find a better description from some 3 card monte book/video.
It's hard to make it look convincing though. At least for me.

Sankey shows the move well on at least two of his DVDs, including (i think) "amazing magic and mentalism anyone can do" and "22 blows to the head". I can check this when I get in if you like.

quick tip if allowed, arching the tabled card slightly so raised at the sides helps

It's in Expert Card Technique by Hugard & Braue.

Barry

Daryl shows it well together with some variations on his Daryl does the Full Monte DVD.

James

it's best if you can see this on a dvd. Then you'll appreciate how tough it must've been to write.