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Probably just over enthusiam !

Thank you everyone!

Michael Kras wrote:Of course not. I am only 14, what do you expect?

Garcia sells Next notes for $15? It was junk!

So why are you selling lecture notes? Why are you even lecturing, if you even are.... Your not truely qualified to do so from what I have seen.
Your a 14 year old... Work more on your effects and presentation than trying to make a quick buck.

I am not in it for the money, but thank you for your advice. Presentation is the most important factor for me.

Good work Michael - work in progress and I think with practice your onto a winner. Keep it up buddy.

Out of interest - do you actually give lecturures? It's just that I would be surprised to see someone as young as you lecturing (not that your age should discourage you).

i think lecturing is something for the more experienced. older magicians should be lecturing...i don't think a 14 year old should be lecturing (even if they have had "seven years" practice when it comes to magic) there's simply lack of experience.

Mr Kras, when you say "seven years", do you mean since you first brought yourself a sven gali deck or summit? in that case iv been doing magic for 15 years!

how long have you been doing pure gimmickless sleight of hand visual magic may I ask?

it isnt an aqusation, just a question. i tell people iv been doing magic for 3 years...for that is how long I have seriously done it sleight of hand wise...15 years though since i first "started" (minus the 10 year gap in the middle )

Michael Kras wrote:I am not in it for the money, but thank you for your advice. Presentation is the most important factor for me.

Really.. you dont really show it in your videos.

ultimatecreate wrote:Out of interest - do you actually give lecturures? It's just that I would be surprised to see someone as young as you lecturing (not that your age should discourage you).

Yes I do... Well, I am starting to. Just gave my first lecture a few weeks ago.

Blapsing_Beard wrote:Mr Kras, when you say "seven years", do you mean since you first brought yourself a sven gali deck or summit? in that case iv been doing magic for 15 years!

how long have you been doing pure gimmickless sleight of hand visual magic may I ask?

it isnt an aqusation, just a question. i tell people iv been doing magic for 3 years...for that is how long I have seriously done it sleight of hand wise...15 years though since i first "started" (minus the 10 year gap in the middle )

I have been serious about magic for about 4 years.

Then you should read Craig's stickie.

Honestly, did you read it yet?

No I haven't. Had a busy day but I will read it right now.

Michael Kras wrote:

Blapsing_Beard wrote:Mr Kras, when you say "seven years", do you mean since you first brought yourself a sven gali deck or summit? in that case iv been doing magic for 15 years!

how long have you been doing pure gimmickless sleight of hand visual magic may I ask?

it isnt an aqusation, just a question. i tell people iv been doing magic for 3 years...for that is how long I have seriously done it sleight of hand wise...15 years though since i first "started" (minus the 10 year gap in the middle )

I have been serious about magic for about 4 years.

4 years isnt even nearly long enough to give "lectures". sorry if im blunt, but im tired, and have a cramp in my leg and it really hurts.

i practice sleight of hand over 4 hours a day every day. I now do a few performances occasionally, and have even undertaken the concept of creating my own magic, like my new card through window. I then brainstorm my ideas with other people, test run, improve, test run e.t.c and actually improve my effects.

iv been utilising sleight of hand for 3 years, 4 hours a day most days, sometimes less, sometimes more, but an average of 4 hours per day. i have the royal road book, bobos book, 13 steps - the whole lot of the basics, as well as a few more advanced materials. However, my friend, i know about more magicians than Jay Sankey - one of my key influences was greg wilson, but I do know and respect a lot more magicians than him.

I would recomend to listen and learn from advice in previous posts, and dont put up cr@ppy magic videos time and time again telling everybody that you sell that $hite for money, and it is all examinable, and they can buy the method off of you.

the fact that we have had several people say "thanks for the tutorial" explains enough!

look mate - we have all (well...some) tried (occasionally) to give constructive criticism, but I think it is time to say to you what I had say to me about 4 years ago - and, long term, it will help.

You...are...not...brilliant.

yes my fellow magician, you have some skill, I am not denying that. the fact that you have done performances for an audience on more than one occasion is more than you can say for many a magician. However, being as young as you are has both its positives and negatives.

You have a lot to learn. I do as well - I aint denying that. But what im trying to say is 4 years isnt nearly enough time to have enough experience in just simple things as crowd control, misdirection, connections, and just general social interaction!

the main problem is that these 4 years have fallen from the age off 11 (ish) onwards. Unfortunately for you, this is a time where many changes take place, so both your outlook on other people, and their views upon you, will change in a very short space of time.

Fact is, you have potential. But you are not nearly good enough to give lectures yet. You have some original ideas - the pretzal incident proved that - but you need to work with them, perform them, correct them, adapt them, but most of all - have *fun* with them.

But you will see as you get older how everything changes, and how much you did have to learn.

yes, my friend, you will probably hate me now - but i really couldnt care less about your feelings for me after this post. you can take it one of two ways - positively, or negatively.

either way, I could not care less. but what i have said I do hope that you take on board.

in summary my fellow cunjuror, are the following points:

grow up (in a literal sense - as in, get older. you will see that audiences react in a much more positive way towards you)

perfect your effects

dont give lectures - give performances (kids parties, restaurant work (though maybe save restaurants for about the age of 15/16) and maybe some family adult barbacues - i know that they helped with me)

forget about sankey - yeah he is good, but there is much better out there. but also, many different performing styles. look at oz pearlman, slydidni, dai vernon, paul harris, paul daniels, greg wilson, tomas medina, and morgan strebler for a very wide variety for performing styles. some are good, some not so good, but be they good or bad, you will see how many different ways there are to perform magic - and then you can create your own, rather than use, as has been mentined, "Sankisms"

but most of all my friend - have fun "performing" magic (give up your "lectures" - at least for another 10-15 years)

I do hope you take this on board. If you want to screw at me, go ahead. I really cant be @ssed any more. I do not care what you think, how you feel, or what your opinions are. All I am doing is attempting to offer you some advice from experience. So bottom line is - I do not actually care about you.

But you should see that I have put a bit of effort into this post - it is half past three in the morning for deck's sake!

so screw at me if you will, but you shall see that I have taken the time to type summit that many people couldnt be $hitted to type.

I shall leave you now with these simple departing words of wisdom that I heard all that time ago, which have meant a lot to me, and have had a great effect on my way of thinking - both in, and out of, magic.

"Think inside of the box, while everybody else tries to think outside it"

Michael Kras wrote:

ultimatecreate wrote:Out of interest - do you actually give lecturures? It's just that I would be surprised to see someone as young as you lecturing (not that your age should discourage you).

Yes I do... Well, I am starting to. Just gave my first lecture a few weeks ago.

You really have no right to do that. Thats part of the Ego. You truely believe your ready.

Read the post above mine, by Blapsing_Beard.. its very good, and you should head evey word of it.

ITs good that your earger, but you need to take one step at a time. Dont go putting the kart before the horse.

There are people here, like myself, that have been practicing the art of magic for as long as you have been alive, if not longer.. and performing for longer than you. You dont see us out lecturing, or writing books or notes, or selling "Creations."

Granted I am helping a fellow magician on his lecture notes, but I was asked by him, and I have the knowledge he seeks and the expeirence.

AndI am writing a book, but not on magic. ITs a COOK book, cooking with Alcohol.

So take a deep breath, and listen for a chance.