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Can anyone recomend where in the UK I can get roughing spray? Davenports are out and I dont want to ruin my cards by buying rubbish. Any advice is warmly welcomed.

i recieved mine from cards4magic yesterday, i ordered on sat. made some decks today and its working like a charm, try them

Here's some good advice a la Bob Cassidy:

The current wisdom seems to hold that “Testor’s Dull-Cote,” a spray lacquer available wherever model airplanes are sold, is the cheapest and best roughing fluid available. (By the way, you can instantly guess the approximate age of any magician you meet on the Internet if you ask him for the name of the stuff you use to make cards cling together. If he says “roughing spray” he’s probably in his teens or early twenties. Either that, or he’s a fiftynine year old entrepeneur who sticks “Roughing Spray” labels on the Testor’s cans and sells them at three times retail. If, on the other hand, he refers to the substance as “roughing fluid,” he’s almost certainly starting to get up there in the age department.)

why rough your cards up anyways? unless it's making your own ID or something I would just use thick powder if you're trying to keep them together.

There are far more applications for roughing fluid than the ID!

Oh yes! It has a thousand and one uses!

Go to a craft shop and get some matt varnish spray.

RobLaughter wrote:Here's some good advice a la Bob Cassidy:

The current wisdom seems to hold that “Testor’s Dull-Cote,” a spray lacquer available wherever model airplanes are sold, is the cheapest and best roughing fluid available. (By the way, you can instantly guess the approximate age of any magician you meet on the Internet if you ask him for the name of the stuff you use to make cards cling together. If he says “roughing spray” he’s probably in his teens or early twenties. Either that, or he’s a fiftynine year old entrepeneur who sticks “Roughing Spray” labels on the Testor’s cans and sells them at three times retail. If, on the other hand, he refers to the substance as “roughing fluid,” he’s almost certainly starting to get up there in the age department.)

LOL Well I guess I'm a 36 year old teenager!


Thanks for the advice guys.

Could you just put roughing solution in a little spray bottle?

monker59 wrote:Could you just put roughing solution in a little spray bottle?

iv only ever seen it in an aerosol bottle... USE IN A WELL VENTILATED ARE, the bottle REALLY doesnt stress it enough, a garage is ideal, and wear a mask!

erm... i think Seige's nums stock it, im sure thats where i got mine from, just find the clicky on the borders!

rvoice100 wrote:i recieved mine from cards4magic yesterday, i ordered on sat. made some decks today and its working like a charm, try them

Same here. It's good stuff and works very well. But make sure you use it in a very well ventilated area (I did mine on the patio in the garden - on a nice day of course!) And don't go too mad with the spray.

It's been said 1000 times before but:

1. Lay out the cards to be roughened on a spread of newspaper sheets in a well ventilated area

2. Ensure that your cats/hamsters/dogs aren't going to be able to walk over them once sprayed!

3. SHAKE THE CAN WELL

4. Starting in one corner of the newspaper (not on the cards, as you will get a 'wet spot', and moving swiftly in sideways sweeps, holding the can about 1.5ft above the cards, give them a *LIGHT* dusting, zig-zagging from side to side until all cards have had a dose

5. Leave for a while. Don't be tempted to touch the cards!

6. Depending on room temp. etc., wait about 1/2 hour and repeat the coating.

7. Leave to dry for a couple of hours at least before gathering up the cards

Remember... don't 'dwell' when spraying, keep the can moving. It's much better to do a couple of very light dustings than one solid layer.

Trickyfied wrote:

RobLaughter wrote:

... If he says “roughing spray” he’s probably in his teens or early twenties. ... he refers to the substance as “roughing fluid,” he’s almost certainly starting to get up there in the age department.

Just as a point of interest, my 1950's Davenports catalogue (no, I'm not THAT old... it was my father's!) refers to the stuff as Roughing LIQUID (see the pic below). So I guess you have to be seriously ancient if you call it that. It was a mere one shilling and threepence a bottle at the time (that's about 6p in the new fangled money).

When I was growing up the common name was Roughing Fluid and I do remember, as a child/young teenager, painting the stuff onto cards with a brush. Eeeeehhhhhh... them were the days!

Yorkshire Pudding wrote:Just as a point of interest, my 1950's Davenports catalogue (no, I'm not THAT old... it was my father's!) refers to the stuff as Roughing LIQUID (see the pic below). So I guess you have to be seriously ancient if you call it that.

I've heard Mandrake call it "hard water". Would that have been the term in the 1860s?

Okay, I've laid the cards out on newspaper, but where can I get a decent hamster?

Try using a dog instead. You will need more spray tho,