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Can someone please help me with the four coin roll down? I can't do it all the way yet. I learned it from www.coinvanish.com. Here's the part where I get stuck:

I can't get my fingers to touch like that. Especially the thumb.

Here's my video of me doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2innh1NPF4

Also here's a video of me doing the coin roll which I've mastered (I like to learn and do all flourishes, I have Devo's ring flourishes DVD, and I'm trying to learn to do the pressure and thumb fan well too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASqkrjaPzGo

Thanks for the help!

You seem to be doing the method from Bobo's. I believe this is the most difficult method, but not the most effective. The method I like the best is the one taught on Rich Ferguson's Poker Stunts DVD (I don't think that is the exact name). Rich actually made this flourish avalible for free (you can access the link to this video right from the site he is selling this from). In my mind, this is the most effective method

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RVWqdcvWEUI

Another method I like for the roll down is the one taught in Hugard's Magic Manual (The Multiplication Flourish, page 24 of the Dover edition). It is probably the easiest of the methods, but it is still very effective.

By the way, if you are into the flourishes, this is a great site for coins:

http://www.coinmanipulation.com/

I believe the roll down method from Hugard's Magic Manual is also taught here.

mccabe24 wrote:You seem to be doing the method from Bobo's. I believe this is the most difficult method, but not the most effective. The method I like the best is the one taught on Rich Ferguson's Poker Stunts DVD (I don't think that is the exact name). Rich actually made this flourish avalible for free (you can access the link to this video right from the site he is selling this from). In my mind, this is the most effective method

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RVWqdcvWEUI

Another method I like for the roll down is the one taught in Hugard's Magic Manual (The Multiplication Flourish, page 24 of the Dover edition). It is probably the easiest of the methods, but it is still very effective.

Thanks, can you tell me what I'm doing wrong in the bobo's verison?

No, because I happen to be stuck right where you are .

mccabe24 wrote:No, because I happen to be stuck right where you are .

Thanks for that pokerchip four coin roll down verison. That is ALOT easier. The hardest part is catching the quarter with my pinky. Which I can't do..yet. I orginally used silver half dollars but they are too large for my fingers. Look at my video and tell me what you think (This is a new one )

Is this the proper technique?

(Besides dropping them at the end )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MET-uRjBYBk

The technique is good. It will get better with a little practice. The hardest part is deffinatly getting the last coin onto your pinky. As you are using coins and not poker chips, you might want to try to pull the last coin down with your pinky instead of letting it fall into the gap. Most people can't do this with poker chips because the chips are too big.

By the way, good work on getting this far in such short time. You are learning this a lot faster than I did. Mind you, I never did devote a lot of time to flourishes (this one took me a bit over a week to learn and about a month to get really smooth. You will probably have it down in a few days.

By the way, if you are into the flourishes, I can't recomend that coin manipulation site listed above enough. It's free, and it isn't some goon from youtube giving a poor explanation of something he learned of someone who learned off ellusionist. What more could you ask for .

mccabe24 wrote:The technique is good. It will get better with a little practice. The hardest part is deffinatly getting the last coin onto your pinky. As you are using coins and not poker chips, you might want to try to pull the last coin down with your pinky instead of letting it fall into the gap. Most people can't do this with poker chips because the chips are too big.

By the way, good work on getting this far in such short time. You are learning this a lot faster than I did. Mind you, I never did devote a lot of time to flourishes (this one took me a bit over a week to learn and about a month to get really smooth. You will probably have it down in a few days.

By the way, if you are into the flourishes, I can't recomend that coin manipulation site listed above enough. It's free, and it isn't some goon from youtube giving a poor explanation of something he learned of someone who learned off ellusionist. What more could you ask for .

Thank you! I'll try and pull it down with my pinky, that part is pretty hard though. I've been practicing it since the last video was up (around 2 hours). I really appreciate your compliments. I'll post another video of it once I have it down.

Thanks again.

By the way, are you residing in the UK? I live in the US

No problem! I'll look forward to your new video.

By the way, your coin roll has really improved. If I'm not mistaken, you posted a video of it quite a few months ago. The new one is much better.

Finally, I do not live in the US, nor the UK. I come from the Great White North. I'm Canadian, eh !

mccabe24 wrote:No problem! I'll look forward to your new video.

By the way, your coin roll has really improved. If I'm not mistaken, you posted a video of it quite a few months ago. The new one is much better.

Finally, I do not live in the US, nor the UK. I come from the Great White North. I'm Canadian, eh !

Thank you but getting the last coin on my pinky is freaking hard! I've been practicing it for hours and I only was able to do it a few times. Ugh..i hope I can get this down.

If you were able to do it a few times, then that means that you can do it. Just keep on bangin' your head - you'll get there.

Mike.

SpongeBallSlight-of-hand wrote:Thank you but getting the last coin on my pinky is freaking hard! I've been practicing it for hours and I only was able to do it a few times. Ugh..I hope I can get this down.

If you find it easier, do the last coin as described in the video (let it fall into place). This is the method I use. The pinky thing was just something to try out to see if you were more comfortable doing it. I've seen some people that do this with the pinky, but I find it much easier and equally effective to let the coin drop into place.

Here's a video of me doing it. I put at least 40 minutes of failures on recordings before I could get this! Ugh. I don't know why I can't perform this flourish under pressure (a camera), my hands get all sweaty and I can't seem to do it well with the camera!

I'm able to do it without the camera alot more now. Not consistily one after another, but better.

Here's a video of it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cmNHZlY6SVQ

Not bad! Your getting better at this. It needs to be a bit faster and that will come with practice. Aside from that, try to get a bit more seperation between the third and last coins.

You're doing everything else right, so just keep working at it.

mccabe24 wrote:Not bad! Your getting better at this. It needs to be a bit faster and that will come with practice. Aside from that, try to get a bit more seperation between the third and last coins.

You're doing everything else right, so just keep working at it.

This guy on ellusionist said this about my four coin roll down: Wrong technique. The last coin isn't to be dropped and catched by the pinky. The middle finger aids the last coin. It goes by bringing the stack nearer to the pinky so that the pinky can just clip it with little movement. Then the pinky extend on the stack side by side with the middle finger, and pull the last coin. It isn't dropped.