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seige wrote:
In actual fact, holding a coin in C.P. and making it look natural makes the palming easier, if anything.

After studying Michael Jays comments this is so true. I've found over he last 24 hours with my hand much more relaxed, the coin even seems to have a 'suctioned' feel into my palm and I can easily wiggle all digits, pick up a pen, coin, tap on the keyboard etc.

Last night I was trying the click pass over and over again but the smoothness and fluidity of my CP is still not there, I'm still quite inconsistent with the initial placing of the coin and often require a second 'push' with my 4th finger which kinda gives the game away.

Cheers Seige.

To get the positioning 'sweet spot'...

1. Open the palm with all fingers outstretched
2. Place the coin near the wrist directly inline with the middle finger
3. Holding the coin in place with the other hand—flat against the palm—bring the thumtip and pinky tip upwards and towards each other—keep ALL fingers as straight as you can
4. Move the coin towards the middle finger whilst opening and closing the 'thumb pinky grip'

Eventually, you will find that you can grip the coin... it's preferable to learn to grip it in the 'V' made by the base of the thumb and the side of the hand... close to the wrist.

Practice this, and it makes it MUCH easier to get into CP from say, fingertip rest. For me, for instance, I can hold a coin in fingertip rest and literally go straight to CP by doing a 'spiderman web-shoot' action.

Again, this is something you can practice without really concentrating.

Looking good, I think the more you practice the more relaxed your hand and fingers will be. I have great difficulty in doing this due to several broken fingers so my hand looks aukward and screems 'palming' when I do it. Lady of Mystery gave great advice, palm a coin and keep it there all day during day to day tasks. When you forget its there youve got it.

Interesting story involving practicing the palm. I know a gu who was an EMT. he wheeled a patient into the hospital. Had to follow the gurney into the operating room. Once his part was done he just kind of hung back but stayed in the room. While doing nothing he stupidly decided this was a good place to practice his classic palm. Well the coin hit the floor the doctor threw him out of the room, and about a week later he was brought up on disciplinary charges and lost his job.

I'm sure there is a lesson in there somewhere. Perhaps if practicing in a sterile environment, don't get caught?

Just wondering, would you all practice the CP with a large coin or a small coin. I'm asking because I don't know if I should practice with an American quarter or the twice as large half dollar. Any thoughts?

most coin gaffs are made in half sized coins so thats why the majority of your time should be spent on halfs but changing it around, going small and going bigger is always a good idea, also try dice and rings, bottle caps and anything else.

for the uk its 10p's and 2p's, £1's and £2 coins for mixing it up.

I use a half dollar size. I also have some old looking pieces of eight. (unfortunatly fake) that I enjoy using. I can go down to a dime, (I just tried) but I can't say I ever practiced that. Half dollar size is all I ever really considered.

Hello. I am a coin magic newbee and am trying to improove my classic palm as well. I seem to be doing fine with classic palm: I found the right spot on the palm and it is easy for me to keep the coin in it without stiffing the hand too much or making it look unnatural, wich seems to be the most difficulty for beginners. What I'm really struggling to do is to place the coin onto the palm without moving my thumb in that wierd fashion that is sure a clue that there is something "wrong" with that hand. I'm trying to touch the thumb and the index finger's tips while doing the moviment, but it seems impossible not to move the thumb outward to make room on the palm to accomodate the coin.
Any advice on this matter?

Thanks in advance

Sure, all the focus is on the hand that they think holds the coin. The hand with the palmed coin is usually at my side or doing something else completely such as picking up another object such as a pen or wand or whatever and in that action I cover up the placement. In truth I never really worry about it. David Roth did this odd thing in his lecture it wasn't my kind of thing but I'll pass it along as it does work. When making a coin vanish he would wiggle his thumbs and point it out to the spectators it was his move to make the magic happen. For example the patter would go something like this:

"I put the coin in the hand, wiggle both thumbs and voila, the coin has vanished"

Of course the thumb wiggling was actually needed to palm the 47 coins he was able to palm at the same time. Okay perhaps 47 is an embelishment of fact it may have been 42 or 43.

Get the specs eyes off your hand, either by having their attention on the other hand or maybe speak to them to distract them. If their attention is directed else where it's fairly easy to get into the palm without being spotted.

One method I use in a few of my routines is to have them remember a card right at the start of the routien and then ask them 'do you still remember that card? Good, just making sure' something like that is usually enough to get anyone to take their eyes off your hands for just long enough to perform something that they shouldn't know about.

God bless the search function! This thread has pretty much all the advice you could ever want on the classic palm.

Mine currently looks like a spasm. (My other half was dialing emergency services half way through my coins across practice)

giznorm wrote:God bless the search function!

You have no idea how wonderful that sounds to my ears !!!

giznorm wrote:God bless the search function! This thread has pretty much all the advice you could ever want on the classic palm.

Mine currently looks like a spasm. (My other half was dialing emergency services half way through my coins across practice)

LOL, the real trick is to relax about it. Try this on for size, use a finger palm as your mainstay, then when the heat is off and you feel comfortable just slip the coin into classic palm.

The spasm look will go away. It is odd commenting on a post I commented on 3yrs ago. I have no life.