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13 steps to mentalism or practical mind reading

Postby Raymond du Plessis » Dec 21st, '07, 20:07



Maybe I should have posted this in the review requests.................

For a beginner, which it the better choice, 13 steps to mentalism or practical mind reading? I'm sure they are both good, but I don't want to get the two of them at one go.

I've seen the reviews on the books, but could somebody please tell me which one of them is the most beneficial.
(And of course there are other books on the topic, but I don't want to undo myself with too many choices!)

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Postby Markdini » Dec 21st, '07, 20:08

Fulves self working mental magic 1st.

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Postby Jordan C » Dec 21st, '07, 22:02

Mark Lewis will be along soon as will Craig Browning.... :P

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Postby themagicwand » Dec 21st, '07, 23:38

13 Steps is in my humble opinion far superior to PMM. If you only ever buy one book on mentalism, make it 13 steps.

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Postby magicofthemind » Dec 22nd, '07, 11:16

themagicwand wrote:13 Steps is in my humble opinion far superior to PMM. If you only ever buy one book on mentalism, make it 13 steps.


Seconded. The layout is more systematic, it's fully indexed and it covers a wider range of techniques and also business advice.

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Postby Tomo » Dec 22nd, '07, 12:24

magicofthemind wrote:Seconded. The layout is more systematic, it's fully indexed and it covers a wider range of techniques and also business advice.

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No index is something I don't like about Dover books in general. They're great, but they really need indexing.

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Postby magicofthemind » Dec 22nd, '07, 12:50

Tomo wrote:No index is something I don't like about Dover books in general. They're great, but they really need indexing.


I think the fault is with the books they are republishing, rather than with Dover themselves. In fact, Magic and Showmanship by Henning Nelms, which is a Dover original (and which I can strongly recommend for mentalists), has two indexes.

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Postby Tomo » Dec 22nd, '07, 12:55

magicofthemind wrote:
Tomo wrote:No index is something I don't like about Dover books in general. They're great, but they really need indexing.


I think the fault is with the books they are republishing, rather than with Dover themselves. In fact, Magic and Showmanship by Henning Nelms, which is a Dover original (and which I can strongly recommend for mentalists), has two indexes.

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Two? Impressive. I stand corrected.

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Postby mark lewis » Dec 22nd, '07, 13:40

For a complete beginner I think I second the Karl Fulves recommendation. Once you get into things then I would go for the Corinda book. For one thing you get more advice about presentation there. The Anneman book is great but when all is said and done it is just a bunch of tricks.

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Postby magicofthemind » Dec 22nd, '07, 13:57

mark lewis wrote: The Anneman book is great but when all is said and done it is just a bunch of tricks.


True, but there are some very useful techniques buried in those tricks which you can pull out and use. It's just not so as easy to find them as it is in Corinda.

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Postby Soren Riis » Dec 22nd, '07, 14:08

I would go for Corina's 13 steps since you will need that book at some stage anyway.

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Postby BILL BERMAN » Dec 22nd, '07, 22:16

Don't overlook the Handbook of Mental Magic by Martin Kaye. It is surprisingly informative covering all phases of mentalism including presenttion and theory.

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Postby mark lewis » Dec 23rd, '07, 05:36

I had forgotten about Marvin Kaye's book. It is not bad at all. I think mentalists generally don't like it because of the attitude that Mr Kaye displays to people who try to come across as the real thing. A lot of purists would be irritated by his book.

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Postby Raymond du Plessis » Dec 23rd, '07, 10:32

Ok, thanks every one! I Think I'll go for 13 steps first. :P

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Postby Markdini » Dec 23rd, '07, 10:39

Get self working mental magic too. 'Dini is right.

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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