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I learnt from a friend, who has a demonstration on youtube called jennings100, and he performed it brilliantly. He then showed me the method and I spent a long while perfecting it. With a borrowed deck of cards it is definately harder, whereas with your own you can use a slightly easier method, following the same principle.

I just checked his youtube page to find the link to the video, but it says "Account Closed!" Next time I speak to him, I'll ask him to put the video up again and post it here ASAP!

Wanna ask him where he learned it for me?

I have to admit (and hopefully you'll pardon my ignorance) that I was under the impression that Scarne's original, cold deck presentation of cutting to the aces has never been exposed. Scarne never told anyone exactly how he did it (to my knowledge) - it isn't in print, therefore it would almost never be found on a DVD (unless shown by someone who actually was a confidant of Scarne).

Am I crazy? Was this ever actually tipped?

Mike.

Michael Jay wrote:Am I crazy? Was this ever actually tipped?

I didn't think this was tipped either. Maybe we're both crazy.

Am I crazy? Was this ever actually tipped?

The technique, that I and several others, are convinced he uses is seemingly justified by two things.

Firstly, he did publish notes, and I cannot be sure of the name, but I remember seeing them for sale for a rather silly amount, where he explains a "move" and how to implement it under the noses of spectators which is excactly the way we thought he performed it.

Secondly, there was a video of the man himself performing the trick, posted on youtube by ConMagic, and if you know what your looking for and you understand what he wrote about, it is clear he uses that method.

Michael Jay wrote:I have to admit (and hopefully you'll pardon my ignorance) that I was under the impression that Scarne's original, cold deck presentation of cutting to the aces has never been exposed. Scarne never told anyone exactly how he did it (to my knowledge) - it isn't in print, therefore it would almost never be found on a DVD (unless shown by someone who actually was a confidant of Scarne).

Am I crazy? Was this ever actually tipped?

Mike.

I go with Mike on this also I have never heard of him revealing how it was done. I thought Bill Malone just told the story and kind of did it the way he thought it was done relisticly of coarse.

Like I just said, he revealed in notes a move, not the trick, but a move that just so happens to have the exact same effect. He didn't invent it, just wrote of his subletys.

You wouldn't happen to know the name of those notes, would you? The reason that I ask is that I've done a bit of research on the topic over the past couple of days, including e-mailing a good friend of mine who knew Scarne back in the day and so far no evidence points to Scarne ever tipping the real method that he may have used (that's not to say that he didn't, only that I can find no evidence of it).

The story can be found in "Fooling the Cardsharks" and the exact excerpt can be found here:

http://scarne.freeservers.com/sharks.html

Also, upon finding that set of notes for a ridiculously low price, why in the world didn't you buy it?

Mike.

Michael, I haven't said that his notes revealed the method behind the trick, but within his notes he talks/writes about a move that fits it perfectly. And as earlier pointed out, and I undertsand I wasn't overly clear, when the original video was posted on youtube, there are several parts that point to this technique!

I guess we can't guarantee it, he could be using it as a massive red herring to throw us all off!

I will PM you in the morning when I'm a bit more awake with my full thoughts on the subject!