The Destiny Effect By Michael Kras

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Postby TheAlkhemist07 » Apr 7th, '08, 12:16



TBH sounds siilar to a trick called jurassic deck, ut thats just my cinicism.
And how come you got a copy, are you and he , dare I say it .....mates?
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Postby Demitri » Apr 7th, '08, 16:35

Lawrence wrote:
Demitri wrote:Can the spectator's named card be examined by the spectator?


It can be in my Oracle trick, which achieves the same end result. I use it to give a souvenier card away.
Plug. Plug.


Believe me Lawrence, that crossed my mind. I have loved and used your beautiful effect for a while now. There are so many applications to it!

The fact that the spec can't examine their card is a bit of a downfall, in my eyes. The entire effect is built upon the thought of a connection between performer and spectator - and the thought is that it's "destiny" for the person to select the card with their name on it. And after all that, they can't keep the card they were destined to select?

Don't get me wrong, the effect sounds good - I don't think every effect or routine should allow the specs to examine every little thing - but with something like this, the selection is such a personal thing, it should be examinable.

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Postby crozboz » Apr 7th, '08, 17:05

That is a very good point, and while lawrences effect is similar, and cleaner, it doesnt have the option of having the spec name their own card, thus making a really clean trick.

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Postby Lawrence » Apr 7th, '08, 17:23

crozboz wrote:That is a very good point, and while lawrences effect is similar, and cleaner, it doesnt have the option of having the spec name their own card, thus making a really clean trick.


Yes it bloody well does! :lol: :P
It's my standard closer these days, to have the card they freely name have their name on, generally with the symbol for their star sign as well, depending on how well it will all fit in.
I had one the other night with someone's name on it along with the location we were in, the date, and the time (to the minute) that they named their card. now that, is a win.
anyway, i shouldn't be hijacking this thread.
Is the trick repeatable? something you can actually carry all the time easily?

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Postby crozboz » Apr 7th, '08, 20:50

Its 1 deck of cards, but the odds are 52 in 20,000 that you will get a winner.

But yes, it is instantly repeatable.

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Postby Ian McCarthy » Apr 8th, '08, 08:44

The odds are alot higher than that. For example more than one in 52,000 in the UK is called John.

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Postby heldermagico » May 30th, '08, 03:24

Hi , where I can find this effect? In which dvd , book?

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Postby DrTodd » May 30th, '08, 07:55

The title should be changed since it is the same as a Richard Busch book

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Postby Michael Kras » Sep 21st, '08, 17:29

Wow, thank you for a lovely review Tom! I'm so overjoyed that you like my idea.

Of course, you caught it at its early stages and I bcan say it has developed greatly since then, with numerous handling and other bits and bobs added in. This effect is truly my baby, and right now I'm helping it to grow (with of course, a little help vrom my magical friends).

Not to brag, but I've had this effect conjure up screams from layaudiences. It's such a powerful and personal effect, it's not your run-of-the-mill card mystery, to spectators it's a full-blown miracle. It often touches them in a way that I've never had any other card effect do.

Question time!!!!!


"Can the card be examined by the spectators at the end?"

No. However, I have never ever found this to be a problem. The reactions are frequently so large for this effect that examination never even crosses their mind. The whole premise kinda leads away from suspicion over the name card anyway. However, if you still worry about it, it's just a simple matter of casing the deck and pocketing it during the spectators' reactions.

Any other questions, please feel free to ask.

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Postby Demitri » Sep 21st, '08, 22:56

Good to see you back, Michael!

I'm with you on the examinability angle. In most cases, the need for such criteria just isn't necessary. However, given the very nature of this effect, I still feel that not only should the card be examined, but given to the spectator. It's such a personal sounding effect, and I'm sure it's getting you strong reactions.

If you'd like to knock the idea around a bit, perhaps we can come up with a variant that allows the card to be examined? I'm sure there's a way...

Good to have you back. Hope you stick around.

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Postby Michael Kras » Sep 22nd, '08, 00:41

You make a good point. And thank you for the welcome back, by the way!

The couple of people who know the method of this effect may be of some help on the examinability front but in the case of this effect (which is, as stated, my baby), no method-related topics can be discussed, at least not MY method. I'm keeping this relatively quiet for a while.

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Postby TheAlkhemist07 » Sep 25th, '08, 10:44

Michael Kras wrote:

Any other questions, please feel free to ask.



"whats the method?"


Well that is the obvious question, jst thought I would get it out of the way now.

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Postby Michael Kras » Sep 26th, '08, 04:58

The method is a combination of the clever use of tiny LCD Screens embedded subtly onto each card and disguised... and of course, the miniature control panel installed in the right hand jacket pocket on which you type the name of your volunteer and send it to the LCD screen on their thought-of card. You are able to do the dirty work BEFORE they even reveal their thought-of card thanks to the genuine thought transmitter device installed in a seemingly normal Hearing Aid which allows for a seamless retrieval of thought.

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Postby Mandrake » Sep 26th, '08, 09:56

Exactly what I thought..... :?

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Postby Michael Kras » Sep 26th, '08, 14:19

It's really obvious if you think about it.

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