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Am considering buying one of these DVDs and notice that the newer one (Torn Too) is cheaper than the original.

Is it not as impressive a trick or something?

Any thoughts...?

Tim

I wouldn't say one is more impressive than the other. They're effects running along the same plot (torn and restored), but the original Torn is a "larger" effect, in that a card is torn into 4 pieces and restored, piece by piece. Torn Too is a single piece restored on a torn corner.

Both effects look very nice. I haven't purchased Torn Too - but I am a fan of the original Torn effect, so I can recommend that.

Hope that helps.

Although both are TnR effects, they are totally different in presentation. To this date, I cannot see a truly effective visual TnR that I can use in table hopping. I do some TnR...but most of them are done in the spectator's closed hands, not the visual type.

In my opinion, Torn One is much better than the second. Although Torn Too doesn't have much concern on angles, I cannot successfuly do it the daytime or in a brightly lit room. I may be performing it the wrong way, but as far as I'm concerned, it's not really doing good for me.

Torn was the first effect I bought about 2 years ago and thought it was great. (Do pepole still use this and get good reactions? I haven't done it for months?)

Torn Too was also shown in Torn and I'll be honest I didn't like the Demo when I watched it a few weeks ago - it looked to me they were "hiding" parts on the reveal - there was a flash of light and the camera cut away at the crucial moment to the specs face for their reaction. Torn was very clear throughout the efeect.

I'll reserve my judgement on this until I read the reviews....

Thanks a lot for your comments.

I think I'll give the first Torn DVD a go.

What a supportive and engaging bunch you people are here on this forum!

Cheers,
Tim

Noodlesoup wrote:To this date, I cannot see a truly effective visual TnR that I can use in table hopping. I do some TnR...but most of them are done in the spectator's closed hands, not the visual type.

REHAB! A real worker! Apparently.

http://www.bigblindmedia.com/RehabTandR.htm

I will be getting this very soon indeed.

dimabbq: Please have a review on this when you finally get it. I'm quite intrigued by it. Video previews doesn't help too much in regards to performing it somewhat (but not totally) surrounded.

Looking at the videos I'm not sure I can see the difference between REHAB and TORN; they look identical to me.

Makes me want to get the REHAB DVD instead for the extra routines (and cheaper price!).

I am a great fan of TnR effects. I perform "torn" on a regular basis and believe it is a great effect. Angles are a little tricky but the fact you can tear up a signed card into four and put each piece back together a piece at a time and then give the care out is great.
I like "reincardnation" also as the angles are not as bad as "torn". However the fact you cant hand the card out at the end annoys me. I have got around this though by changing the patter, also have another method where i do not sign the card and perform a switch for the last restoration.
"torn too" is a good trick for the angles but i dont like the trick because its just too quick , also when i perform a restoration i prefer my hands to seem empty, however this effect is performed on top the deck seems a little dodgey!!
I am just about to purchase huron low's TnR collection and from the video footage it looks really good, though with all torn and restored effects you have to be careful with the performances you see on the internet.
If you want to perform this trick surrounded then buy torn too,,, if you like the idea of putting each piece together one at a time then buy torn, if you hate the funny angles then buy reincardnation...
hopes this help, confused myself a little.

if huron low is good a will let you know cus im gettin within 2 weeks

Thanks for your comments.

I went with REHAB in the end. Haven't had chance to watch it yet as I have a glut of magic stuff to get through.

Will keep you posted...

TimEden wrote:Thanks for your comments.

I went with REHAB in the end. Haven't had chance to watch it yet as I have a glut of magic stuff to get through.

Will keep you posted...

Please review as i cannot get any magic stuff for a while due to my last insurgence of CUPS.

If anybody is thinking of getting Holy Grail, don't bother - you will be disappointed.

Well I can't profess to be an expert in TnR effects as this is the first I have explored but for me it seems to bridge the gap between being genuinely impressive but achievable for the amateur hobbyist such as myself.

I don't know if I'm breaking rules on here by saying this but one tear is real and another is...not. I find it hard to believe that spectators won't see/hear the difference. Time will tell.

Otherwise I really feel I can do this even if the last restoration needs real precision. Plenty of practice then...

Have not explored the extra effects yet.

Daniel Garcia's version of the Torn And Restored Card is by far is the cleanest and easiest sleight of hand version I have ever performed. The card is freely chosen, no forcing, and signed. It is then torn and restored with the signature being restored along with the rest of the card. If I could only perform one trick for the rest of my life this would be it.

Martin
http://thewisdomwell.com/

Do you mean Torn or Torn Too?