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Hi all,

Im just wondering if and what music do you use in your performances ?
Does anybody use Intro/Outro music ,Do you have a pre-recorded voice over intro,and when is appropriate to use music through your set?

Im asking this as im trying to piece together a short 15-20 min set ( 3 effects max...i think??? ) One of my effects is " The Thirteen Month " by Oil Foster,the same principle as banachek's " Think of a Month " I found it at Online Visions a few years back

I have performed this a few times with friends and friends of friends and always get a good reaction from it,i like to use ideomotor suggestion within this effect rather than use blue tack as mentioned in Foster;s routine.I have also changed the routine a bit as so i do not touch the tarot cards only the spectator does - I think this makes it a stronger effect as it happens in their hands so to speak

I use music from the original Hellraiser film called "Resurrection " for this piece as its has a good ambience and tempo which moves along very nicely.

I would like to know your views good or bad on using music within a performance and what intros/outros or music within your performance.

regards

Caffa

I prefer intro music, and usually end with a musical act such as Snowstorm in China.

I either use creepy instrumental music or classic rock (The clash).

As for if it's a good thing or not, that's really up to you. No one can tell you what's good and bad for you.

Anyways this is my preference for "Intro" music. ( In case your interested.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NypRX5CpG0

If you're performing in public, for your own legal safety (both of you) take a look at my posting at the bottom of this thread:
http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic25745.php

Using copyrighted music without licensing it is leaving yourself open to serious trouble. And they do prosecute. Find something royalty-free.

Ian the Mental-Ian wrote:I prefer intro music, and usually end with a musical act such as Snowstorm in China.
I either use creepy instrumental music or classic rock (The clash).
As for if it's a good thing or not, that's really up to you. No one can tell you what's good and bad for you.
Anyways this is my preference for "Intro" music. ( In case your interested.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NypRX5CpG0

Thanks for that Ian - I enjoyed your intro piece...very errie and builds expectaions - perfect. Jusy wondering which clash song you use...bet that rocks.
regarding Good vs Bad i suppose you are correct - its just finding the balance and that only comes with time,experince and audience feedback.
Robbie, you make vaild points re copyright music in performance and are mostly correct,but i doubt somehow the music industry will hunt me down and bankrupt me for using a few tracks - unpaid or otherwise.If i was doing something on the vegas strip or blackpool etc yes your concerns about permissions would be right due to the profile,costs etc

But consider this for a moment....every day,week in week out we have solo artists,duo's,groups etc performing in clubs and pubs singing covers of other peoples music and they charge and yet i have yet to hear of music industry taking these people on, karaoke is the same they karaoke person turns up and charges for his services using backing tracks from copyrighted music..never heard of them getting into trouble.
Same goes for lap dancers - they charge to perform for you to a piece of copyrighted music and you dont hear of them in courts for performing to copyrighted music.
Im not trying to be argumentative robbie, just being devils advocate

That shouldnt be a problem, as any venue that has an entertainment liscence will have the music liscence therefore its not an issue to the performer

I've got a couple of musical routines which I do to salsa. I've also got a sponge ball routine done to a Madness version of Swanlake.

Caffa, I agree that your chances are slim that you'd be picked up and prosecuted for doing one quick set with a background CD. But horror stories exist of primary school plays and the like being hounded and slapped with hefty fines for exactly the same thing.

Tribute bands, cover artists, karaoke players, and nightclubs buy licences for the music they use. No, they don't make a meal of explaining it to the audience; it's just part of their running costs.

I've pointed out where the law stands; my conscience is clear. It's up to you to decide what to do about it.

As far as copy right and music licenses go, it's the reponsibility of the venue to ensure that they have and pay for any licenses that are required. It's not down to the performer and it's not the performer that'll get in trouble if not everything's covered.

That's the way it works for bands, I've always assumed that the same would apply for magicians too.