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please tell me what you think of this trick=D

Postby uchihaperi » Feb 19th, '10, 10:22



I recently got Identity by Richard Sanders (a great trick). Then I come up with an idea and would to hear what you think.

You ask a person to take a card and sign it. Then put it on the top of the deck
and the the performer shuffles the deck. The performer takes an Joker and put it on the top on the deck and asks the spectator to take the deck and search it for their card but they can´t find it. The performer holds the joker in the hand and says: "Do you know why there is a joker? You see the joker is like a spare you take the joker and just make it to the lost card." And then the jokers has become their card with the sign and they could keep it.

Please tell me what you think about this=D

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 18:26

I am guessing you steal the card- in which case I would reccomend doing a centre steal or something in which it isn't put on top as that seems less suspisious. Then, you can let them shuffle the deck, in which you have left the joker. You can then miracle change the card so it literally snaps into thier card before thier eyes.
Its an alright trick, but it needs a story or something to make it emotionally resonate with the spectator- then it would be a great trick.

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Postby uchihaperi » Feb 19th, '10, 18:33

SamGurney wrote:I am guessing you steal the card- in which case I would reccomend doing a centre steal or something in which it isn't put on top as that seems less suspisious. Then, you can let them shuffle the deck, in which you have left the joker. You can then miracle change the card so it literally snaps into thier card before thier eyes.
Its an alright trick, but it needs a story or something to make it emotionally resonate with the spectator- then it would be a great trick.


Ok, that sounds much better and I will add that but I just wondering if you could give an example of the story if it´s possible for you???(if you understand) :D

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 19:25

It depends entireley upon the performer. What could suit me, would almost certainly not suit you and vice versa. It is much better if you come up with the presentation.
For example, I know someone, who if they knew anything about magic, would be able to pull off some corny storyline about love and transform it into a beautiful piece of magic, but that if I tried to do it, it would inevitably be a corny and cheesy, hideous, even cringe worthy piece of tat.

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Postby uchihaperi » Feb 19th, '10, 19:44

SamGurney wrote:It depends entireley upon the performer. What could suit me, would almost certainly not suit you and vice versa. It is much better if you come up with the presentation.
For example, I know someone, who if they knew anything about magic, would be able to pull off some corny storyline about love and transform it into a beautiful piece of magic, but that if I tried to do it, it would inevitably be a corny and cheesy, hideous, even cringe worthy piece of tat.


OK, I think I have an idea and thanks for your tips I will take this information and remake the presentation and becuase I don't know exactly how to do the centre steal( :cry: ) I will do something that is very similiar=D

Thanks again :D :!: :!: :!: :!:

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 19:53

Yeah, like I said, what suits one performer doesn't suit the next.
And btw, it doesn't matter what steal you use, if it creates the same effect, I only said C steal because that's what i'd use, not because i think it's the only way of doing it.
Anyway, what's your presentation, it would be interesting to hear?

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Postby uchihaperi » Feb 19th, '10, 20:17

SamGurney wrote:Yeah, like I said, what suits one performer doesn't suit the next.
And btw, it doesn't matter what steal you use, if it creates the same effect, I only said C steal because that's what i'd use, not because i think it's the only way of doing it.
Anyway, what's your presentation, it would be interesting to hear?


Ok, here goes.....

You know how many scientist out there in the world. I remember one man but I can't remember his name. He was experimenting with bugs and other creatures dead creatures. His life goal was to bring back the dead. But after how many times he tried he couldn't come up with a way. Then he meet a girl and fell in love and forget all about his life goal and tried everything to win her. But one day she died, she had fell of from a cliff.
The scientist was shocked by the news and then he remembered his life goal. He was sure if he could bring her back to life everything would be good. He keept on trying and one day he figured it out. He started the wakening of the dead and saw the body come back and she was alive but something was wrong and he noticed that his life power was drained away from him to her and he ended dead but the girl were alive....

Okay, that's one idea I have come up with but maybe it's to long and it dosen't feel so new and maybe I should say some other words, but that's it please tell me what you think :)

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 22:12

Interesting. I don't think I could perform it, but as I've said millions of times, if its suits you- which as it's your creation it more likley will, then it will already be better.
I think that perhaps your story could be a little solemn, but it's certainly more interesting than 'look your cards gonna change'.
Also, it would be better if it's something people could relate to, indeed, it would be great if you could bring back people from the dead, but it invites some horrible memories for some people that may not really want to be probed. If you are doing it on the topic of love, by no means is it great, but I think it's something people could relate to more: (If I was going to do this, I would force a queen. It's not neccesery for the methodology, but it would help the presentation)
They say in life, you get to choose who you fall in love with. Well.. all it is is chance. Because if you go out.. and you try and find that special person, who's just right for you, the chances are.. you can't find them. Because, ultimatley, you never know where you could find love.
VERY corny if performed badly, but the enviroment would have to be right, the presentation aswell. That was just an example.
I think though, if you make all your effects like this, it will get tiresome, patronising and quite cheesy. But I like your one, it just needs a few tweaks.

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Postby uchihaperi » Feb 19th, '10, 22:21

SamGurney wrote:Interesting. I don't think I could perform it, but as I've said millions of times, if its suits you- which as it's your creation it more likley will, then it will already be better.
I think that perhaps your story could be a little solemn, but it's certainly more interesting than 'look your cards gonna change'.
Also, it would be better if it's something people could relate to, indeed, it would be great if you could bring back people from the dead, but it invites some horrible memories for some people that may not really want to be probed. If you are doing it on the topic of love, by no means is it great, but I think it's something people could relate to more: (If I was going to do this, I would force a queen. It's not neccesery for the methodology, but it would help the presentation)
They say in life, you get to choose who you fall in love with. Well.. all it is is chance. Because if you go out.. and you try and find that special person, who's just right for you, the chances are.. you can't find them. Because, ultimatley, you never know where you could find love.
VERY corny if performed badly, but the enviroment would have to be right, the presentation aswell. That was just an example.
I think though, if you make all your effects like this, it will get tiresome, patronising and quite cheesy. But I like your one, it just needs a
few tweaks.


Alright I will take this and remake it and try to get it better and I will post it here again =D (this is my first trick I have come up with alone)

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 22:48

I think thats good that you're making your own trick. And also that your spending your time focussed on the presentation of a simple trick :D

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Postby uchihaperi » Feb 19th, '10, 22:53

SamGurney wrote:I think thats good that you're making your own trick. And also that your spending your time focussed on the presentation of a simple trick :D


I'm not sure if I should take all of it as a compliment (Is it spelled so?) :D

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Postby SamGurney » Feb 19th, '10, 23:18

yes, it's a compliment :D

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Postby uchihaperi » Feb 21st, '10, 17:00

SamGurney wrote:yes, it's a compliment :D


Good to know=D

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