talkmagic.co.uk

If you're into Mentalism then this is for you. All be it a bit expensive.

http://www.magictricks.co.uk/prodshow.asp?code=399

Official site here

http://www.keelanleyser.co.uk/KEYFXWEBSITEdemo.htm

Expensive yes. But cheaper than the "Midas" product that effectively seems to do the same thing.

Correct and the leyser is more user-friendly in that it is one component rather than having leads threaded all around your body.

do you have one?

I was considering buying a leyser 2020 over the weekend.

After doing a bit of detective work & watching the video demo I figured out the method etc, yes it might be totally self contained but it still appears to be very large for exactly what it is.

Surely it could be manufactured to be a lot smaller, also it could pick up other items which could give false result depending on what routine you are performing with it, yes in performance this could be overcome but the item is not cheap to buy and I would like a method/gimmick which is 100% each time.

Its a great piece of thinking & hats off to the inventor/creator but this item is not for me, it would not suit my performing style.

I know this is up against Midas which for all intensive purposes is similar, but there are other mentalism methods which achieve the same result & are non mechanical.

Hope this helps & sorry to be a bit cagey in my comments.

Cheers

it is the size of a king size snickers bar

I guess it's just about getting used to it, like a TT

Does anyone know anything more about the ‘LEYSER 2020’ ?
I have a good idea what it is [edited by mods] But I’m wondering how good it could be for table type magic.
Has anyone any actual experience of it ?!

Why don't you watch the video demos on magictricks.co.uk?

Because the demos are not going to say:

"BAD TRICK! DON'T BUY!"

The point of the demo is to sell the trick, so it will be done as favourably as possible. Piers wanted an actual opinion of whether it is good.

Kati

My humble opinion on such gimmicks: A few weeks ago I saw a magician on TV doing a stunt. I guessed immediately how he did it. So if I can guess it immediately, other spectators will also be able to.

His presentation, however, was great! It was only the secret which probably is too easy to find.

Think about it this way: The easiest to fool are well-educated, intelligent people. (The hardest to fool are children.) The gizmo we are talking about will most likely not fool educated people since it is actually one of their first guesses of how this effect operates.

Hence, I am skeptical about the usefulness. Unless you have an absolute superb presentation with excellent misdirection. In which case you won't need this particular gimmick anyway ...

Hi,

Thanks for the comments ….
I tend not to watch demos as they take about 3 years to download onto my computer ! And true, they just focus on the good points, not the preparation, ability to repeat / not repeat, handling etc …. Which of course is not surprising, as they do tend to be a sales tool.
I think I’ll have to dig around some more ! I’m just looking for something REALLY good, alongside the card tricks.
I started off thinking about a prediction watch, then saw the Gerlitz watch ( nice ! ), then I saw the Pavel Knot, but then read reviews that weren’t that complimentary, then saw Himber rings, but had varying reviews. So yet to get anything. I don’t want to make an expensive mistake !
The best thing I DID buy, was the Complete magic Book by Mark Wilson. That is the best one I have seen, by far ! Really great.

Ta ta,
Piers.

It seems pretty likely thatn I may invest in the Leyser 2020 as the cost is "ok" and it does what I want it to do. True that there are many effects which give the same result as this with cheaper costs etc, however its the convinience of being practically fail proof and the MANY possibilities. I shall let you know next week if I did go for it and give a review.

Rumburak said:

I guessed immediately how he did it. So if I can guess it immediately, other spectators will also be able to.

I don't necessarily agree with this one. An intelligent spec may think that they know, others may still be baffled. Remember that you have an inside track over the average spec that will help you spot what's gong on more easily. However, I do agree that some gimmicks are far easier to spot than others and this may be what you were saying and it's me that has misinterpreted.

The easiest to fool are well-educated, intelligent people. (The hardest to fool are children.)

I couldn't agree with you more on this one!

So if I can guess it immediately, other spectators will also be able to.

I so disagree with that. If your presentation is up to scratch then an effect with this would be totally believable. The spectators wouldn't even be thinking of how it could be done, because you would be telling them how it is done. With psychology, or body language or muscle reading or with what ever method you decide.

If anyone is even thinking how it is done, then you need to work on your presentation...