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First "Gig"

Postby Big Jon » Aug 22nd, '10, 02:42



Haven't posted for a while, but thought I'd make an update on how I'm coming along.

One of my Scouts asked me to do some close up for her 16th birthday party, so I went around the tables and did a few simple tricks.

Went very well, saw what went down well and what didn't and how I can improve in future. What I have learnt:

1. My patter and misdirection need a tiny bit of work
2. It looks suspicious doing some tricks with a blue deck and then pulling out a red one to do a rising card.
3. Props definitely need to be ditched/examinable afterwoulds.
4. Some tricks go down better than others.

Between tricks had some good chats about different styles of magic and magicians.

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Postby deano0010 » Aug 22nd, '10, 07:52

Hi Big John,

I quite agree with you on ditching a blue deck and swapping it for a red deck is not really a good idea,so at least youve learned one thing.
Keep up the good work though and im sure with more gigs,you will get more experience,and know what effects go down well with certain age groups,or types of people.

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Klangster1971 » Aug 22nd, '10, 09:54

Big Jon wrote:.
4. Some tricks go down better than others.



And they're very rarely the tricks you expected to go down better than others!!!

Good work - keep it up :-)


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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Johnny Wizz » Aug 22nd, '10, 10:04

Klangster1971 wrote:
Big Jon wrote:.
4. Some tricks go down better than others.



And they're very rarely the tricks you expected to go down better than others!!!

Good work - keep it up :-)


Sean


And its quite often the simplest tricks that get the best reaction. Thats quite a bummer when you have spent hours learning a knuckle busting sleight!

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Postby richard_kingstone » Aug 22nd, '10, 11:26

Good stuff. :D

The best way to perfect your act is go out and perform.

One thing, I used to use a rising card deck until I re-read RRTC. Now I use the version described towards to start of the book. This removes the need to change decks.

Keep up the good work

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby magicj » Aug 22nd, '10, 12:15

Big Jon wrote:3. Props definitely need to be ditched/examinable afterwoulds.


Uh oh...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic36225.php

Glad to hear the update, good that you've taken something away from the performance

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Vanderbelt » Aug 22nd, '10, 12:41

Big Jon wrote:2. It looks suspicious doing some tricks with a blue deck and then pulling out a red one to do a rising card.


There's a couple of workarounds for this. The most obvious is to have all your gaffed decks in the same colour
OR
Have a reason for producing a second deck, for example a need for a spec to hold on to/keep the blue deck while you're performing rising card.

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Big Jon » Aug 22nd, '10, 13:31

magicj wrote:
Big Jon wrote:3. Props definitely need to be ditched/examinable afterwoulds.


Uh oh...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic36225.php

Glad to hear the update, good that you've taken something away from the performance


Some very good points there, and I'll be looking through that thread thoroughly. Question though, if someone does ask to see something that's gimmicked, what's the best way to get out of that situation?

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Big Jon » Aug 22nd, '10, 13:32

Van_der_Belt wrote:
Big Jon wrote:2. It looks suspicious doing some tricks with a blue deck and then pulling out a red one to do a rising card.


There's a couple of workarounds for this. The most obvious is to have all your gaffed decks in the same colour


This is what I'm going to do in future.

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Vanderbelt » Aug 22nd, '10, 14:56

Big Jon wrote:
magicj wrote:
Big Jon wrote:3. Props definitely need to be ditched/examinable afterwoulds.


Uh oh...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic36225.php

Glad to hear the update, good that you've taken something away from the performance


Some very good points there, and I'll be looking through that thread thoroughly. Question though, if someone does ask to see something that's gimmicked, what's the best way to get out of that situation?


Say no. Best off reading that thread though, else this one is just going to go way off topic!!!

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Mark Waddington » Aug 22nd, '10, 17:23

Big Jon wrote:2. It looks suspicious doing some tricks with a blue deck and then pulling out a red one to do a rising card.


I dont use many gimmicks/ gaffs, but I make sure I have every gimmick in both red and blue, because I cant afford to buy bricks and just use the red decks, every deck is fair game, it also means nothing looks dodgy when you switch


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Re: First "Gig"

Postby magicj » Aug 22nd, '10, 17:36

Van_der_Belt wrote:
Big Jon wrote:
magicj wrote:
Big Jon wrote:3. Props definitely need to be ditched/examinable afterwoulds.


Uh oh...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic36225.php

Glad to hear the update, good that you've taken something away from the performance


Some very good points there, and I'll be looking through that thread thoroughly. Question though, if someone does ask to see something that's gimmicked, what's the best way to get out of that situation?


Say no. Best off reading that thread though, else this one is just going to go way off topic!!!


agree with that i'd normally say:

"Wait, let me show THIS then have a look" (Then switch to an effect without gimmicks, perhaps a card change in hand or somthing)

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Vanderbelt » Aug 22nd, '10, 17:39

magicj wrote:i'd normally say:

"Wait, let me show THIS then have a look" (Then switch to an effect without gimmicks, perhaps a card change in hand or somthing)


Good skills!

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Re: First "Gig"

Postby Big Jon » Aug 22nd, '10, 18:03

magicj wrote:
Van_der_Belt wrote:
Big Jon wrote:
magicj wrote:
Big Jon wrote:3. Props definitely need to be ditched/examinable afterwoulds.


Uh oh...

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic36225.php

Glad to hear the update, good that you've taken something away from the performance


Some very good points there, and I'll be looking through that thread thoroughly. Question though, if someone does ask to see something that's gimmicked, what's the best way to get out of that situation?


Say no. Best off reading that thread though, else this one is just going to go way off topic!!!


agree with that i'd normally say:

"Wait, let me show THIS then have a look" (Then switch to an effect without gimmicks, perhaps a card change in hand or somthing)


I quite like that. When I simply said "no" last night it looked very desperate as I shoved them into my pocket!

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Postby magicj » Aug 22nd, '10, 18:19

Give it a try next time you perform. its always really handy to pick up on things you may have done good/bad, so well done.

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