Card Fan ( 270 degrees ) ??

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Card Fan ( 270 degrees ) ??

Postby Samba » Nov 8th, '10, 12:40



Hello !!

I tried searching for this specific card fan, which shows all the cards in the deck, but couldn't find any reference to it.
Anyway, its the type Mr. Berglas does in his think of a card routines. It looks like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqR2HD-U9E

Any references to where it could be learnt ?

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Postby daleshrimpton » Nov 8th, '10, 13:35

it might be in one of the Ganson routined Manipulation books. Its a nack though. Dont expect to be able to do it straight away.

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Postby bmat » Nov 8th, '10, 18:11

Looks to me like a pressure fan.

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Postby Lawrence » Nov 8th, '10, 18:29

Good old royal road it is then!

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Postby magicj » Nov 8th, '10, 19:22

thumb fan can do this?

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Postby jim ferguson » Nov 8th, '10, 20:19

Practically any fan can do this, show all the indices I mean. As Dale said its a knack which has to be aquired. It can be done with a standard fan, others will prefer a pressure type fan, it really doesnt matter.
    If you're wanting to do it EXACTLY like David does its going to be even harder than using a normal or pressure fan. If you look closely at the clip you'll notice David doesnt spread them in the usual way, ie from the thumb end. He actually spreads them from the wrist TOWARDS the thumb which is kind of backwards from what we usually do. It also means that unless you are using cards with 4 indices or left handed cards, you're going to have to hold the cards in the right hand and spread them with the left (as David does in the clip) otherwise you wont see any indices at all.
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Postby bmat » Nov 8th, '10, 21:46

jim ferguson wrote:Practically any fan can do this, show all the indices I mean. As Dale said its a knack which has to be aquired. It can be done with a standard fan, others will prefer a pressure type fan, it really doesnt matter.
    If you're wanting to do it EXACTLY like David does its going to be even harder than using a normal or pressure fan. If you look closely at the clip you'll notice David doesnt spread them in the usual way, ie from the thumb end. He actually spreads them from the wrist TOWARDS the thumb which is kind of backwards from what we usually do. It also means that unless you are using cards with 4 indices or left handed cards, you're going to have to hold the cards in the right hand and spread them with the left (as David does in the clip) otherwise you wont see any indices at all.
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You know, I saw that they were backwards so to speak and he held them up to the spectator in that odd manner. I just could not put it all together.

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Postby Arkesus » Nov 9th, '10, 17:39

Because David is holding them with his right hand he has had to perform a reverse fan in order for the indices to be visible. Just think of a fan as a curved spread. If you spread the cards out on the table (ribbon spread) left to right you wil see the indices at the top of the cards, if you spread them out right to left the indices at the bottom will be visible, same here.
Reverse fans don't really take any longer to perfect than regular fans, but as already mentioned, getting your fan crisp enough to display all the indices is what doesn take time.

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Postby phillipnorthfield » Nov 9th, '10, 18:06

I think with Berglas, judging by where his watch is, I am guessing he does sleights and such with the opposite hands, same as me. I think that would make learning it much harder.

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