Paranormality by Richard Wiseman

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 1st, '11, 12:33



He thought it was a spirtualist style event rather than "paranormal entertainment".
Just shows how good you are Paul! Seriously, the events I've seen you do are very clearly shown to be for entertainment purposes only and you state that right at the start of each presentation. Anyone confusing thngs after that must have made their minds up long before the show.

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Postby themagicwand » Mar 1st, '11, 12:43

I think he just saw an on-line ad and got the wrong end of the stick. It's no biggie. There was a thread on it that I posted after Tomo pointed out to me the actual Tweet, but I can't find it now sadly.

FOUND IT! http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic34047. ... ght=infamy

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Postby nikmagick » Mar 1st, '11, 12:49

There's a whole load of issues surrounding the Magician as Sceptic debate. Paranormality does worry me a little as it 'reveals' methods us Mystery Entertainers use.

What would happen if I wrote a book called "Card Magic Isn't Real: An examination into what really happens when you see a close up magician."

Don't get me wrong, in real life I'm a sceptic, but I deliberately blur things in performance. Nothing wrong with that.

I just feel that some magicians should have some care towards others who might use their art differently.

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Postby themagicwand » Mar 1st, '11, 12:53

@Nick. Like.

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Postby Beardy » Mar 1st, '11, 12:55

nikmagick wrote:What would happen if I wrote a book called "Card Magic Isn't Real: An examination into what really happens when you see a close up magician."


Already exists under the name 'royal road to card magic' ;)

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Postby themagicwand » Mar 1st, '11, 12:58

Beardy wrote:Already exists under the name 'royal road to card magic' ;)

Yeah, but that's not marketed directly at a lay audience.

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Postby Beardy » Mar 1st, '11, 13:13

themagicwand wrote:
Beardy wrote:Already exists under the name 'royal road to card magic' ;)

Yeah, but that's not marketed directly at a lay audience.


True, but I can't see it being too damaging to the psychic industry? I mean, with all the atheist books out there, it hasn't really harmed religion has it? I think you'll do just fine. You are good at your job, after all ;)

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Postby Replicant » Mar 1st, '11, 14:25

nikmagick wrote:There's a whole load of issues surrounding the Magician as Sceptic debate. Paranormality does worry me a little as it 'reveals' methods us Mystery Entertainers use.

What would happen if I wrote a book called "Card Magic Isn't Real: An examination into what really happens when you see a close up magician."

Don't get me wrong, in real life I'm a sceptic, but I deliberately blur things in performance. Nothing wrong with that.

I just feel that some magicians should have some care towards others who might use their art differently.


I hear what you're saying but I honestly don't think you have anything to worry about. I don't think the Masked Magician did any lasting damage to the industry and, presumably, his TV show reached a far wider audience than Wiseman's book will ever achieve. Also, Wiseman is a psychologist first and a magician second, using magic to illustrate his points on occasion. I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.

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