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Hi, wanting to buy the ID but my local magic shop is selling it for £10! If poss could someone please private message me some instructions on making my own, or will buying the roughing fluid have the instructions with them? Any help will much be appriciated thanks

Check your Private Messages, I sent you a note on this.

Thanks Dimitri. Sorry I may have been unclear, i didn't mean making my own Roughing fluid I meant making my own ID! Just that I feel there is no point in spending lots of money when the same effect can be made yourself. Cheers

You don't make roughing fluid, you spray it out of a can.

Letraset 103 mat spray.

Insight, where are you buying it from for £10?

If it's where I think it is then the roughening spray is also very expensive there and both are available much cheaper online.

Excuse me, but, £10 for ID is NOT expensive. It's worth every penny, if you like pocket tricks. It's a killer trick, and will fool ANYONE.

I agree Rune - £10 is not expensive for such a magical deck. However, I do begrudge paying over the odds for something when you can get the same from another dealer (or most others for that matter) for a few pounds cheaper. Please don't misunderstand this statement, I am not talking about buying counterfeit goods which I wouldn't buy, but that's a different thread.

As an example, I know some dealers who charge £8 for a tin of roughening spray whereas others will charge £4 to £4.50. I'd rather save the few pounds and buy something else as well.

I understand that, it's just that 5 or 10 £ for such a trick, doesn't matter. It's worth a whole much more. Anyway, this spray, can you get me some more information about that? PM me?

Thanks Dat, Yea I managed to find the ID online for just over £3 with free postage! (Well it is at this moment due to the exchange rate). However it is out of stock so thought to buy the roughing fluid which was only £3.30 - good price yea?

If possible could someone please PM me instructions or any tips on making my own ID? Much appreciated.

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I understand that, it's just that 5 or 10 £ for such a trick, doesn't matter. It's worth a whole much more.

Sure it is worth more than a tenner! But why pay more when you can get the same thing for a lower price? Plus I'm a poor student so need to save the pennies

I do know what you mean Rune and it's an invaluable part of my routine. I have PM'd you regarding the roughening spray.

I always use the ID when performing and it gets such strong reactions time and time again. I have four different routines that I use with this deck. The genius is in it's simplicity.

Insight - I wasn't telling you how to make roughing fluid, I was telling you what to use INSTEAD of it, to create an ID.

Insight wrote:Sure it is worth more than a tenner! But why pay more when you can get the same thing for a lower price? Plus I'm a poor student so need to save the pennies

I can't afford to spend thousands of pounds on stage illusions, so would anyone like to give me details on how to construct them?

Joking apart, there are some things I'd like to learn, or own, but simply can't get hold of, at least not without paying absurd mark-ups. I've just had to get on with it. I've never asked anyone for the secrets, even though getting the original works is effectively impossible.

An ID costs about £10, because, in part, you are paying for the method. If spending a tenner on something that, as dat8962 says, is a very versatile prop is too much, then don't get it.

My guess is that the £3 one is not going to be as good as the one for a tenner (the latter's possibly on Bicycle cards, instead of some cheap deck).

Isn't it worth paying for something that you want? Isn't it worth paying for something of better quality (I assume)? Do you not value things more when you've earned them, or paid out for them?

ok here goes £10 for an ID.and you want to make 1 to save money lol,
1 a deck of bikes to make it from £2.50
2 a can of roughing spray some say 4 to 5 pounds more like £7
3 making it up a total pain in the ass choking on the fumes ,paper everywere. if you spray to much the cards run ,if you spray to little the cards dont stick.
£10 yer i think id pay that if i were out to perform and forgot mine, and i own a shop.i have some card tricks that cost £69 eg geaton blooms escalator deck. but i would not of baught them if i was not impressed.another good example of a trick you could make yourself ,:is quadro vicious circles £110 to buy, but what a show you cn put on with it.anyways ill jump off my high hourse now lol.

this is all silly! penguinmagic sells everything cheap!! (almost)

just go to penguin magic and you'll find that the ID (bicycle version) is on around £3 with instructional video and free postage!

ive actually ruined my ID because i thought it was unreliable but now i might buy a new one cos it seems really good!! (need some cash)

I have a card trick I'm working on that needs some roughing fluid. Now I'm guessing that there is roughing fluid and roughing fluid.

Any tips on different types? Are some rougher than others? Are there different types that you would use for different effects? Are some easier to apply?

Thanks in advance.