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I've been playing around with this trick again, and while I LOVE the effect, I am not really fond of the handling of it.

The method I learned was from Ammar's ETMCM Volume 6 - so anyone who learned it from there will know what I'm talking about. The "move" used is one I have NEVER enjoyed using. So, I've been trying to augment the handling a bit, utilizing different ideas.

So, my question is - does anyone who uses/knows this trick know of alternate handlings for the vanishes? If so, PM me and maybe we can discuss some ideas.

I'm just looking for brainstorming ideas mostly, since I would REALLY like to use this effect more often.

What's the name of the move? If we knew then maybe people not familiar with this particular effect could help. If the name itself is a bit too revealing then maybe a cryptic clue would help!

I was unsure about naming the move, since it could expose certain elements to the trick. Thinking about it though, I guess just saying the move isn't really exposing.

The Glide

It might just be me, but I really HATE this move. I find it completely unnatural and (in my opinion - a spec has never said anything) highly unconvincing.

Well as long as you don't have to reposition your hand on the cards to do it there shouldn't be a problem. The one thing I would say though is that it is one of he moves which is quite well known among non-magicians.

Have you considered using a second-bottom deal? I think there is one in Erdnase 'Expert at the Card Table'

The problem with repositioning, is that you DO have to do so in this routine, as the cards are on the table. While the necessary positioning IS possible (if you just pick the cards up into the glide position) I came across another problem when I tried to do that.

I prefer to keep the aces face up until I start the actual vanishes - which eliminates the chance to pick up the tabled cards in the proper position, since it's a face down pile on a face-up ace. The problem I had, was if I DID turn the aces over at the onset, I had a few spectators questioning whether I'd ditched them before the effect even began.

I never thought to use a second deal. With only a few cards, it never crossed my mind, but I'll DEFINITELY give it a try. Thanks for your input, nickj!

Now I know the Glide is supposed to be a well known magicians move, but I use it regular and have never had anyone pick up on it. So, maybe, its how well you do it.

Only a thought, but I've never had it sussed

I hear what you're saying, Tenko. I'm not saying I can't get it, I'm saying I personally don't like it. I haven't been caught yet, but I would hardly consider that the ONLY reason to continue using it. Also, to say that it's never been suspected is pretty naive. I'm positive I've had my share of spectators who have questioned the move. And for good reason.

The move, to me, seems completely unnatural. For instance, it makes no sense to me that you'd hold the cards in a dealer's grip the entire time, then SUDDENLY switch to an awkward looking overhand style grip. The first time I saw a card guy using it, I wondered "why can't he just deal them from the top?" The handling is unusual and the manner in which the cards are dealt seems flawed. I know I can't be the only person who has thought this about the glide.

If you like it, more power to you - I just wanted to hear some suggestions on alternatives to using the glide in this particular routine. Thanks for your input, Tenko.

I've taken nickj's advice and I'm working with a seconds deal, instead. It might look better, but the next problem lies in how the cards fall - since the routine requires such things.

I use it with a simple oil and water effect using 3 red and 3 black cards. I hold the cards in the same position all the way through. I can see that changing grip part way through would look unatural.