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			 by Taylor » Jul 1st, '05, 06:16
by Taylor » Jul 1st, '05, 06:16 
			
			I am very comfortable with what I have learnt as regards to sleights and the one or two card tricks I can do but really want some help with the patter and showmanship.
A friend recommended Strong Magic by Darwin Ortiz.  What do you think??

 
		
			
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			 by MagicIain » Jul 1st, '05, 06:48
by MagicIain » Jul 1st, '05, 06:48 
			
			I've been looking at buying Strong Magic to take on holiday in a couple of weeks - you can see a review 
here.
I reckon I'll buy it. Also, have a look at Absolute Magic by Derren Brown, and 'Making Magic Real' by Osterlind, available at his 
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			 by Taylor » Jul 1st, '05, 08:06
by Taylor » Jul 1st, '05, 08:06 
			
			Cheers for that Zack.
I think SM will be my next ourchase after reading all the reviews.
I'm definatly going to have a look at Darren Browns stuff because I think he is fantastic.
Hope you have a great holiday 

 
		
			
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			 by Taylor » Jul 1st, '05, 11:42
by Taylor » Jul 1st, '05, 11:42 
			
			Thats what I am looking for.
Do you know of any other books which can help with patter and showmanship ?
			
		 
		
			
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			 by Hawk » Jul 1st, '05, 11:54
by Hawk » Jul 1st, '05, 11:54 
			
			To be honest. Paul Danniels or Marvin are good hings to take on holiday as its easy to learn from them, give it ago i find when you want to learn somthing decent and quick, they are the most succesfull and basic.
			
		 
		
			
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			 by bananafish » Jul 1st, '05, 11:55
by bananafish » Jul 1st, '05, 11:55 
			
			The one I would recommend is in many ways the bible of such Tomes (although I am sure at least a few will disagree with me).
The book is Magic and Showmanship, A Handbook for Conjurers by Henning Nelms. and I personally have found it VERY useful.
It was I believe reveiwed in this thread...
http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic2773.p ... ship+nelms 
		
			
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			 by MagicIain » Jul 2nd, '05, 14:29
by MagicIain » Jul 2nd, '05, 14:29 
			
			Another simply brilliant book. Buy that one too.
It's expensive, this magic lark...
			
		 
		
			
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			 by Hawk » Jul 3rd, '05, 13:42
by Hawk » Jul 3rd, '05, 13:42 
			
			Yes thats a very good book so ill Recommend it.
			
		 
		
			
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			 by ouch-kabibble » Jul 4th, '05, 15:36
by ouch-kabibble » Jul 4th, '05, 15:36 
			
			I have strong magic, and it is a very fascinating read. I would definatley reccomend taking it on holiday- it is that kind of book.
			
		 
		
			
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			 by MagicIain » Jul 4th, '05, 19:48
by MagicIain » Jul 4th, '05, 19:48 
			
			Hawk - what did you find most useful about 'Magic and Showmanship' by Henning Nelms?
Do you use any of the effects in it? I use his 'Out Of This World' - I think it's the best version out there.
...mods - bear with me...   OK, OK!
 
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			 by highlander » Aug 14th, '05, 19:52
by highlander » Aug 14th, '05, 19:52 
			
			strong magic has a list of the other Darwin ortiz books available. Does anybody know where i could get some off these? preferably Card Shark. I know amazon has some but not these ones. I have checked a few magic stores but they just seem to dell the dvd's.
Does anybody know what these are like?
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			 by PapaG » Aug 14th, '05, 23:25
by PapaG » Aug 14th, '05, 23:25 
			
			cardshark is out of print - good luck finding a copy...
			
		 
		
			
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			 by DESmond TINY » Sep 28th, '08, 20:09
by DESmond TINY » Sep 28th, '08, 20:09 
			
			does anyone know a website where I can get strong magic from before it goes out of print again. . . .^^ 
English money needed
			
		 
		
			
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			 by pkrmagic » Oct 1st, '08, 17:37
by pkrmagic » Oct 1st, '08, 17:37 
			
			i bought a copy of the book from 
www.worldmagicshop.co.uk
 i recieved it yesterday and have read quite alot of it.. seem very good
 
		
			
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			 by memorire » Nov 2nd, '08, 09:42
by memorire » Nov 2nd, '08, 09:42 
			
			buy it!
SM is fabulos. 
Other books you asked for might be Absolute Magic by Derren Brown but it is our of print. Its great though.
Another one is The Magic of Ascanio Vol. 1. Dont know about that though as i have not read it yet - it is somewhere between Spain and my mailbox atm 
 
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