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I've seen a thread in Support & Tips about the Erdnase Change and I've recently developed the ability to do it. It's by no means perfect but I'm quite pleased with it so far.

When I decided to record this I couldn't help but use my Black Tigers. It was a necessity.

Comments welcome...

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL VIDEO

THERE IS AN IMPROVED VERSION BELOW BASED MAINLY ON THE ADVICE OF GoldFish

Sorry, but that is just a mess. It doesn't look magical at all. It is really obvious what you did.

Slow it down, work on the set up and try and make it look a little bit more magical.

Where are you learning this from?

Here's how I do an ECC.

Erdnase Colour Change

I agree with Goldfish and if you look at his presentation it's much smoother. The change itself (Goldfish's) was perfect but it did seem to me at the very start that the top card sliding forward was a little too prominent but I'm not sure that a layman would spot it.

dat8962 wrote: it did seem to me at the very start that the top card sliding forward was a little too prominent but I'm not sure that a layman would spot it.

I aggree, and must apologise because it's not a true representation of how the change should be done. I filmed the clip very quickly and hardly checked it back before posting because I'm so used to doing this move. Having said that, my audience have never picked upon this, so I must be doing something right

I appreciate the speed at which you put this together in order to help someone else and as I said, I thought that evertything else WAS absolutely perfect

I've alwasy been particularly fascinated by the ECC as it's so visual and I never grow tired of seeing this performed.

I have to say that the reason that I particularly scrutinise this part of the ECC is that I was until recently doing the very same thing myself without realising it

Thanks for the comments guys. I was unsure whether doing it fast or slow was the best way to go. So after the advice given, I've given it another stab and gone a bit slower, and through the miracle of Sound Effect technology have named it the Erdnase Reload Change, lol. Let me know what you think.

Erdnase "Reload" Change

By the way, mods, I can't get into this topic either from the file sharing forum (similar to the problem I had a couple of weeks ago with Intro). I can only get in by clicking ...

Anyway, about the ECC: I didn't see the earlier version but I have a couple of comments to make on the new one.

1. The rub should be incidental - the focus should not be on it. It should seem as if the rub is just a magical gesture which helps the change along - you shouldn't put much heat on it. So be much more relaxed, and much quicker.

EDIT: I notice that Goldfish said to slow it down...personally, I would do the rub quite fast, then wait for a sec, then 'snap' your hand forwards to do a quick change - make it look like the rub had nothing to do with the change.

2. Oz Pearlman had a couple of tips, the main one being that if you spread your fingers on the change it makes it look much more visual...

3. Once you've done the change, don't hold the deck...this makes it look like you are doing something funny.

Sorry if I sounded overly critical, I'm just trying to help!

Kati

That is much better well done.

Kati has made some very valid points, however...

The rub should be incidental - the focus should not be on it.

I disagree. The focus should all be on the rub. The Erdnase Colour Change is one of the few moves you can do right under the spectator's nose and they will not see a thing except the card changing. The rub is definately not incidental because that is the "magic move". If it were incidental, why would you do it in the first place?

EDIT: I notice that Goldfish said to slow it down...personally, I would do the rub quite fast, then wait for a sec, then 'snap' your hand forwards to do a quick change - make it look like the rub had nothing to do with the change.

I personally think this looks quite ugly. The beauty of the Erdnase Colour Change is that it can be so elegant and very very pretty. to "snap" your hand forward, takes so much out of the image that the spectators are left with.

2. Oz Pearlman had a couple of tips, the main one being that if you spread your fingers on the change it makes it look much more visual...

This is a good point, but bear in mind you should only open your fingers once the move is done i.e. you are not simply lifting your hand away, you open the fingers allowing a tiny glimpse of the card underneath (the one which has just changed), then you lift your hand away. Opening the fingers also shows that the hand is empty but it is always a good idea to turn your hand palm up aswell.

3. Once you've done the change, don't hold the deck...this makes it look like you are doing something funny.

I think that Kati was refering to the squeezing you did prior to the reveal. Again, this takes away from what is a very pretty move because it's quite a rough action. Try and avoid that wherever possible.

Thanks for all the comments. Especially Goldfish - you're comments on my orginal video were really helpful and I much more pleased with the new version. It went from a pile of rushed messy c*** (not the best) to something quite fluid and elegant in the space of a few hours. Hours of practice are nothing without good advice.

The things you have to say in general on this forum are always of interest to me and I'm glad people like you are around to give me the advice I need. Thanks again.

Thanks everyone.

Very nice. I like this one - i cannot comment on the previous version but his looks good. This is one trick that I have never found out how to do my watching a tape of it - every other trick I have managed to do just my wathing. A very well done to you all I can say. Let me hope that I can pull it off by saturday though - my next magic show...

Just for comparison, I thought the old p*** poor version would be worth putting back up here for discussion (at the top). Take it as a testament to what a bit of good advice can do for you. Thanks again GoldFish.

What DVD would teach me this move, along with others like it?

Born to Perform Card Magic, by Oz Pearlman.

It's available at Penguin Magic...do a search on the forum for more info and links.

See, I got here first!

Kati