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Afternoon Chapps,

I've seen this chappy a while back ... and sat on it to see what happends .. now that he is apparently on the verge of the "big time" i thought i get your opinions on me.

Now, with the current social climate of our society and the recent hoo-har of the whole "chav" movement this is an interesting subject for me.

Have a look round matey's site .. he seems to be successfull enough, meeting lots of celebs, appearing on the telly ... yet there is a few different reasons for why i dont like him.

Firstly would be his ENORMOUS ego ... several interviews doted around the net and magazines will illustrate this.

Secondly is the whole "Gangster" .. "point a deck of cards as if its a gun" type of image he portrays... although this might just be my middleclass upbringing speaking.

Have a look and let me know your thoughts ... i presonaly would rather he crawl back under his rock before the sun rises, and he's all over the telly.

Rob

http://www.dynamoworld.com/home.html

It's far Far FAR too slow to load.

Super Snappy for me Tomo ... somone pilfering your bandwidth?

Rob

Whatever you think, I don't think it's very clever or nice to attack fellow magicians that are not here to defend themselves. Especially since the guy is far more successful than any of us.

It's fine now. I doubt very much whether anyone could get in here and if they could, I'd know in a under a second

Isn't that the young chap who was on Ministry of Mayhem (mmm, Holly) before Xmas flinging a deck of bikes about.

true story!
fact of the matter is that guy has the balls the go out and market himself like that, and for that i commend him.
but yeah, magic for the chav generation, suppose someone had to do it

Completely ... my aim wasnt to atack matey ... I'm just interested in peoples opinions on him, i've been talking it over with some other magi with mixed respsonses.

Tomo; that statement about your security almost sounds like a challenge *think to himself* ... just kidding bud, glad to see you run a tight ship.

Rob

I saw this guy on CD:UK one day, he did some excellent card magic, and some excellent flourishes

my aim wasnt to atack matey

his ENORMOUS ego

i presonaly would rather he crawl back under his rock

How you can consider the kind of statements above to be anything other than an attack, I have no idea. Not only are they clearly an attack, but they are also a personal attack, something that wouldn't be allowed to a member of this board. I suggest you also refrain from such comments on other fellow magicians that don't happen to be members here.

Ok, after watching all of the videos on his site, I have a few comments.

First and foremost - he has talent. He can handle a deck of cards, and regardless of your thoughts about his personality or ego (I know nothing of him, so I can't comment) it takes guts to go out and perform like this. Courage, skill, dedication and confidence - this kid seems to have it all in spades.

As for his actual content and performances? I have to say I wasn't really blown away. He's good - and his effects play out well, but it's missing some elements. Most of those elements come from a lack of inspection of his decks.

Card through window - card to water bottle - card to can of beans (nice variation). They all play very strong, but I can see why other magicians would be hard on him. None of the cards are signed, and at no time does anyone inspect the deck for their selection (you could argue this with the water bottle trick - but his spectator stopped picking up cards when he saw the card in the bottle).

The effects just didn't drop my jaw, like a professional does. At first, I thought it was because he isn't doing anything new (none of his effects are original), but it's not that. I know (and perform) a vanish of a lit cigarette. I watched Teller do it right before me, using the EXACT method I learned - and I was STILL amazed by how well he did it.

To me, that's what sets a hobbyist apart from a pro. I'm not saying I'm better than Dynamo (I'm not) - but I just don't see anything in his magic that knocks me out.

That's just my two cents. Yes, I know - worth about two cents less than that.

ive never seen this guy perform yet so i cant really say what i think

I notice on his web that he has been around-good for him

My question- he has quite a lot of photos but if you look carefully he is doing the same cut on most of the pictures..whats that all about?

by the looks of his web he's young but will be going places (he already has lol)- good for him, we need more magic on TV- lol


Jags

Yes I noticed that aswell. Is that the Leno cut in all of his pictures?

ace of kev wrote:I saw this guy on CD:UK one day, he did some excellent card magic, and some excellent flourishes

Ah. I only saw the flourishes, but he looked to be very good at them.

He did Astral Projection I think it was, but nothing original like someone else said

Well, aside from the comments above, let's just focus on his credentials:

HE'S A MAGICIAN, EARNING MONEY... SO THEREFORE HE MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT?

Not quite sure about the 'chav' references... The Chav generation is a rather large stereotypical pigeonhole, and refers not only to WORKING class but also LOWER MIDDLE CLASS.

A Chav is generally considered uneducated and antisocial: surely being learned in the art of magic, and sharing it with the public, charities and celebrities is neither of these?

His 'gangster' aspect is a mere persona. He's young, vibrant, and energetic. There is no more weight in terms of urban 'social subculture meets magic than Hans Moretti did by performing random acts of violence in his magic back in the 80s. He never inspired me to shoot a crossbow at my girlfriend, that's for sure.

I find the analysis of Dynamo within this thread to be rather narrow minded and if anything, borne of the green eyed monster.

He is capitalising on the 'modern thirst for magic' no more than certain record producers have been capitalising on 'made for TV' pop stars. (And for the record, I don't condone the actions of these producers, or the shows—in fact, I rather dislike them.)

Good luck to Dynamo. He's taken the step forward. And for sure, he's certainly not treading on the toes of any bedroom hobbyists, so why should we judge?

Showbusiness has many diverse niches, and from day-to-day, month-to-month, year-to-year we see new niches emerge—usually experimentally at first—to cater for the culture and demands of the audience.

Go back 100 years, and who would have thought, for instance, that two men would be making a career by manipulating their penis's on stage? http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com/

The gangster references don't reflect his attitude. Read the biog page on his site, and you'll see that it's probably his promoters who weened that aspect out. His roots, in fact, are firmly in breaking away from 'middle class' folk would perceive as 'the ghetto' of Bradford.

I really do feel sad when someone is criticised at the point when they actually deserve a break. The lad is about to break through to the big time, possibly the hardest battle he's yet to face.

Personally, I wish him luck. So what if he ends up as 'another Blaineite'? Let's see what he's made of before we usher him 'back under his rock'.