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What do you do when a Spectator Doesn't Shut up and keep on asking to see the stuff (the Deck and bla bla)... ?
one more thing
there is always this annoying spectator that always asks you to do it again(but it needs set up and you can't) what do you do ?
and WHen a Spectator Knows the trick (like From a book or something) and tells Everybody while performing it ?

You can cover hectares of print with ways to handle these situations. The best way, I think, is to start by thinking about everything that could go wrong, and plan the complete performance, even if it's impromptu, so that you control the entire situation well in advance.

One of the ways I get around this, is to use effects that don't give them the opportunity. Things like Hopping Halves, where there is nothing for them to examine at the end, or better yet use the ungimmicked version and let them examine them before they disappear.

Also the way in which you phrase things, for example if you are using a gimmick of sort, you need to make sure that your script covers you right up until the point of the gimmick being put away. At this point if they say something like...." Let me see those cards...or I will show you are card trick" then you simpley switch the deck or whatever you cardies do lol!!!!

If you ever get the situation where a participant wants to "show you a trick" let them!!! You ar getting paid for someone else to perform the effects for you lol. Lets face it it would be impolite to say no and 9 times out of 10 they are going to make you look good anyway.

This is the sort of thing that comes through experience... which unfortunately I only have a few GOOD years of and so I to am still learning how to deal with these situations. You can read and read perhaps watch a DVD on it, or surf the forums endlessly every night looking for answers, but you will never be able to get the hang of it unless you experiment and actually practice it in live situations.

Good luck mate...

Scotty

If they ask you to do it again, either do a different version of the trick so that you do not get caught, or say I have something better to show you.

As you might suspect, there's a previous thread on this topic - check out http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic1428.p ... t=hecklers

If you're performing trick that laypeople have a chance of knowing then the standard of your magic perhaps needs improving a little more before you start performing in public. Laypeople don't typically bother to read magic books and work out tricks. If they catch you through a poor handling then again, you need more practice and yes, you may well then attract some unwanted comment.

if you're performing to an audience and there's a fellow magician watching who would perhaps know many of your tricks and material, then I would suggest that he is doing both you and himself a great dis-service if he attempts to discredit a fellow magician in front of laypeople.

ace of kev wrote:If they ask you to do it again, either do a different version of the trick so that you do not get caught, or say I have something better to show you.

totally agree - never EVER show anyone the same version of a trick. If you must, ie your showing someone else and they happen to be in the room try varying, or in the very least make sure there was a significant time gap between the last presentation of the trick.

regards,

Alex

MiniMindFreak wrote:What do you do when a Spectator Doesn't Shut up and keep on asking to see the stuff (the Deck and bla bla)... ?

It's too broad a question to have a simple answer. It all depends on the situation and type of the person who wants to see your props. But one thing for sure, do not be hostile.

Some people forget that many sorts of reaction that are annoying to us (magicians) are absolutely natural from the spectators' point of view. They are simply curious and interested, it's normal. If you want them to always "behave" (i.e. not try to understand how you do your tricks, ask questions, ask to see the props, etc) then close-up magic is probably not for you. You have to accept that there'll be disturbances from your audience, handling these situations and preventing them is part of the skill of a close-up magician.

one more thing
there is always this annoying spectator that always asks you to do it again(but it needs set up and you can't) what do you do ?

It shouldn't be annoying. Once again, it is a normal reaction of your spectators. If anything, you should be grateful they show interest in what you do.

When asked to do a trick the second time, do not do it. As simple as that. Proceed with your next trick. If they insist, be firm but polite. Use whatever excuse that fits your act. A joke is usually the best way out.

and WHen a Spectator Knows the trick (like From a book or something) and tells Everybody while performing it ?

Here I totally agree with dat8962.

Some people get annoyed if the spec asks, "how did you do that?" but consider this: He's just seen a paradox, and the mind hates paradoxes. It immediately tries to resolve them. All he's really doing, and he may not even realise he's doing it, is admitting defeat and asking for help. He may know rationally that it's you doing a trick, but he's damned if he can work out how.

One of the best ways around this kind of reaction is to tell the spectator that he/she is an integral part of the trick. That the magician (ie you) is simply the conduit that allows the magic in the spectator to reveal itself. So for a simple card trick, you would inform your spectator that it is their creativity, their belief, and their magic that is allowing the trick to work.

The only time spectators get a little twitchy around magic is if they think the magician is being too clever clever, and is taking the mickey out of his audience a la Paul Daniels. I never do this and rarely have problems with unruley observers.

Having said that, there's always the odd one who comes along and knocks you sideways. Don't view it as critisism. View it as a learning experience...!

i will move to a trick that uses him as a prop as well and normally try to embarrass him, the rest fo his friends get a good laugh and he shuts the hell up. the problem is that people cannot allow themselves to be entertained, anbd if they cant explain it, then they want to make u look like a fool. i sometimes resort to my rising card trick and it shuts him the hell up, and when he asks to see the deck, ask him for money to pay for a new deck cuz u dont trust him, us magicians dont make much money remember, do a trick where u make him believe he is in control, bet a drink on it and then totally show him up. its enough to humble most loud mouths, other ones, u walk away and go to a table that is more inviting to see the tricks

Another thing to do is stop. I had a spectator that was trying to jam the card in any old place in the pack, and I couldn't be having that So I put the deck away

ok so last night I showed my cousins the Card thru Glass
and I did it once to my little cousin (the one withthe otsider) and she was like wow how did you do that and stuff
and then my other cousin came and he was like please show me
but I can't because my Outsider will be exposed!!!! So I just didn't Agree and he was Suspisous and he was like did she help you or something ?!!
Now today We are going to meet again
and I'm considiring on doing it again!!1 What do you think should I do it or not ?

Say you will spank them if they talk out of turn again.

Lol