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Hiya mate - two things...

First of all, it's great that you're willing to send out UK versions of the effect as they are needed. I'll ship the US one back to you and pay the postage to have the UK one delivered.

Secondly, B.I.P stands for British Institute of Parapsychology, which can clearly be seen on both the packaging for the B.I.P book and the prop itself. I presume that the British slant to this effect would have therefore been a little obvious to most buyers, but as you were surprised I can only extend my sympathies. However, your effect was not entitled 'American Memory Test 198' but rather as simply a generic Memory Test with the country unspecified, so your comparison does not hold and I suggest you try really hard to think of another one.

Cheers,

Nathan

Nathan_Howard wrote:Hiya mate - two things...

First of all, it's great that you're willing to send out UK versions of the effect as they are needed. I'll ship the US one back to you and pay the postage to have the UK one delivered.

Secondly, B.I.P stands for British Institute of Parapsychology, which can clearly be seen on both the packaging for the B.I.P book and the prop itself. I presume that the British slant to this effect would have therefore been a little obvious to most buyers, but as you were surprised I can only extend my sympathies. However, your effect was not entitled 'American Memory Test 198' but rather as simply a generic Memory Test with the country unspecified, so your comparison does not hold and I suggest you try really hard to think of another one.

Cheers,

Nathan

I was just having some fun with you Nathan. PM your address to me. You do not need to send back your old set or pay for postage (thank you)
I'm responsible for the product and I will be happy to send a new one out.

Rick

Must add that I have spoken with Rick and he has sorted-out the problem. He's more than a decent bloke.

Homicide is fantastic - just to repeat. I will pressing the magicians I know to get it as it is truly worth the money. 10 out of 10.

Best,

Nathan

Hello, sorry my first post is a review, but these are my impressions of "Homicide".

My UK version arrived last Friday (along with a bumper package of the Outlaw effects back-catalogue) so I guess other UK buyers should be getting their copies now.

As I was at work when the package came, my wife opened it up and, after describing the Outlaw wallet etc, she said "Ooh, and there's an old book in an envelope". Point is, top marks to Rick for making the book appear externally aged. It really looks the part.

Coming from the South and having lived in Whitechapel (well, Stepney Green) for a while it made me smile to see the names and addresses of these poor victims.

After ingesting the instructions, it really is more or less ready to go "straight out of the box", but great thought should be given to how you are going to present this (as always). It could be played as a straight "mind-reading" trick, but it can equally be the centerpiece to a carefully rehearsed and appropriately scripted piece of theatre.

Most book tests allow the divination of a word, or sentence. At most, a paragraph. This is totally different. With the minimum of interaction with the spectator, you can describe the crime scene in as much detail as you think your spectator can stomach...

To start with, and almost opposite to most BTs, this screams "Prop!" - but not to it's disadvantage. You wouldn't expect to just pull this off any bookshelf, and it therefore benefits from the inherent curiosity-factor. (Incidentally, a spectator can look through the book quite safely and not tumble the secret).

This lends itself to a story-telling presentation, as there are many ways you could have come into possession of this book. Maybe an Uncle in the Police force passed it down to you, maybe you picked it up at a flea-market.

The book comes with an instruction sheet that gives you the bare bones and very much encourages the buyer to join the Homicide-owners forum. You don't have to join, but there are some good ideas and extra bits of business that you can add to the book to make it more your own.

I'm not a professional, so I won't be using this extensively, but I will pick my moments to share this. Like I said, I think a lovely piece of (dark) theatre can be created with this.

Highly recommended.

One last thought - after a spectator has chosen a crime, they could always write down the victim's name on a piece of paper... that goes straight into your favourite peek wallet...

How jealous am I?

Seems all you guys got your before me...

*cries* You all smell for making me want this so much.

I'm so poor... but I really HAVE to get this now. Damn CUPS

*potters off to check bank balance*

EckoZero wrote:*cries* You all smell for making me want this so much.

I'm resisting, but only by telling myself that I'll very probably get Kioku (even though I'm 97.2% sure I'm more than familiar with how it works) and Sanctum. You see, I have a window of opportunity. It's my girlfriend's birthday soon, so rather than having to face another brutal grilling ('Is that more magic? How much did that cost?') when a package addressed to me arrives, I can pass it off as a present I've ordered for her - which, naturally, she can't open as it'd spoil the surprise. All that'll be left to do afterwards - to finish clean - will be to get some (non mail order) things of a similar size for her to open on the day.

Erm... isn't there currently a thread elsewhere on this forum that discusses whether magicians are in the business of deception?

Haha! What a fantastic way to get stuff for yourself

But I can't get this without my girlfriend knowing, because I use her paypal to buy things. Which she gets the emails for... What does it get charged to?
I could always tell her its a present from an old friend in London...

I reallylike Kioku I don't see how you can give the answer to any memory though Is it some kind of force? Hmm. How can i buy the uk version if i wanted to now? (i don't even know if there is a difference between the two)

Anyway, when i get some more money i'll probably have to buy Kioku.

Can we keep this thread related to Homicide/Bloody Murder please? See separate thread re Kioku (and please don't ask how things are done !)

i didn't want to know how it was done! I want to buy this effect!

I want to buy this effect!

Hee, hee - you're not on your own there !

Geez thats another £30odd of my hard scrounged cash gone. but this does sound like a goody.

Just ordered now...any estimate on an arrival date Roth?

Tommy_C wrote:Geez thats another £30odd of my hard scrounged cash gone. but this does sound like a goody.

Just ordered now...any estimate on an arrival date Roth?

Homicide U.K. ships when ordered. Kioku U.K. will start shipping on Tuesday.

Rick

Roth, this is off topic but who is that in your avatar? I was tryin to work out, is it you?