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I know that it is not for everyone. Perhaps you will reconsider in the future,

oh it is for me, as i said i really like the idea - much better solution than i thought it would be, its just I'm skint at the moment!

ants are great for card to pocket arent they? hope thats not exposure

I have recently put an end to my non-gimmick purism very happily by purchasing Third Degree Burn. Can't wait till it gets here, I'm sure it will be one of my favourite effects. Its strange how some TM members have had negative experiences with the gimmick like scratches and scuffs on hands, and the imprint not staying long enough.

EDIT: I have finally finished creating my ultimate Third Degree Burn routine, its worth taking a look: http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/sutra187333.php&highlight=#187333

I can't see how people are getting scratches and scuffs from using this. As for the imprint comment, this is another fine example ofr practice makes perfect.

There are just far too many impatient people out there when it comes to performing these 'tricks' because that's all they are in the hands of these people. The magic is in the person performing the illusion, it's not in the gimmick itself!

When you get it, take your time to learn it and to get the performance spot on before you take it to show an audience.

I see there's a rather similar item on sale, it's called Blistered by Precision Magic.

just looked at that but it would apear to be erm limited in outs.

considering invisible decks and the like 3rd degree sounds like aq good investment even for a trogladite hamfisted guy like me.
an idea springs to mind after they have said there choice why not get some flash paper from your pad and have them write it down and burn the flash paper and accidently burn your fingers, probably in the e-book already just a thought.

I have been using this and getting some great reactions by doing the following:
Card 'selected' - name onto flash paper in invisible ink.
Small card appears!!
Heckler/stooge says I bet you can't do that again!!
Second Card 'selected' - name onto flash paper again in invisible ink
3rd degree burn!!

Shocking reactions and with 'predictable deck' this is an absolute killer!!

Do it once/twice then you have the perfect reason not to continue - Burnt fingers!!

Drat. My replacement TDB should be in today. ...to the joker who stole my jacket, and is now wondering what the odd contraption is in the right hand pocket - I hope you get hit by a meteor.

I know that Tom's already posted a hugely-comprehensive review on TDB, but I always find it nice when I can read more than one full review on a particular effect that I'm considering...

So here's my perspective


The Effect


Third Degree Burn is the most mysterious, no force, impossible and versatile “blister effect” you've ever done. Imagine flipping-out a spectator when a blister of any card they name appears on your finger and thumb!

It's the ID without the cards — and with more heat!

The Effect: Approach a group of people and ask someone to think of a card, then name it aloud. It can be any card they wish. There is no force. The subject is asked to truly visualize the card in their head; to burn it into their mind. Give them a lighter. After igniting the lighter, they are asked to visualize their card in the dancing flame. You briefly thrust your fingers into the flame, wincing with pain. For the jaw-dropping climax, you slowly turn your fingers around, to reveal the skin on your thumb and finger is now blistered in the shape of their freely-chosen card! You've just given 'em the third degree!

Some key points to remember:
No deck of cards required.
No forcing; works with any card named.
Can be carried with you at all times, fits in your pocket, and is always ready to go.
No reset (again, it is ALWAYS ready to go)!
Harmless—but it does look dangerous!
Comes complete and ready to go with the professional custom gimmick (made to last a lifetime), instructional DVD, detailed manuscript, full routine, and bonus effects (including ideas that DO NOT require the use of fire!).

Cost
£24.50 - £29.50 from various dealers (I got mine from MAGICmagic.co.uk)


Difficulty
(1=easy to do, 2=No sleights, but not so easy, 3=Some sleights used,
4=Advanced sleights used, 5=Suitable for experienced magicians only)

1-2, tops - some reasonably good presentation skills required to get a really effective spectator-response.



Review

As soon as I recieved this, I could appreciate the justification of the price-tag; the gimmick is so nicely constructed, and - as said previously - should last a lifetime.

Accompanying this, you get a 16-page manual (covering Set-Up, Method, Performance and Bonus effects), a full tutorial DVD and a 10-page Bonus Ideas booklet.

The handling actually takes no more than 15-20 minutes to get down, though I can see it's going to take a good few days to really get up to speed with the system as provided...but that's really no huge deal, considering the impact of the effect

The Manual is hugely comprehensive, and well-illustrated with clear, black & white photo's - it's all you really need to learn everything inside and out.

As if that wasn't enough, the DVD is a real gem; very nicely-produced, and with a great 'over-the-shoulder' view of the working from start-to-finish. Better yet, there are a couple of points where the camera cuts to spectator-view, to fully illustrate some of the more difficult-to-explain teaching-angles. It really has been very thoroughly thought-out, and I really commend Jason Palter for his attention to the minutest detail.


Overall

As magicians, we always seem to throw all our attention at the working of an effect, or the gimmick etc (just look - that's exactly what I've done above )

All I'll say, in closing - is take a look at the effect this has on the spectators - there's a demo video here

Besides saying that the teaching material is great and the gimmick is 1st-class, that's seriously ALL you have to consider....look at those open-mouths!!!

10/10 - simple as that!

Can anyone tell me how this compares to Pyro Perception?
Are they pretty much the same or is one superior to the other?

I don't have Pyro perception but from my understanding a force is required as there are a limited selection of cards that the gimmick can replicate whereas TDB the spec can genuinely select any card.

Hopefully someome that has both can carefully explain without giving the secret away

Lord Freddie wrote:Can anyone tell me how this compares to Pyro Perception?
Are they pretty much the same or is one superior to the other?

Despite the obvious similarities, TDB and PP are two very different beasts; DAT8962 is absolutely correct - PP is only able to handle 4 cards maximum, whereas TDB can do the entire deck (unless some clown suggests the Joker! )

So - yes; you obviously do have to ***** a card each end every time with PP, which some may argue may detracts from how it plays (though certanily DOESN'T lessen the impact of the final revealation).

That said, I really do think that TDB has even more of a psychological impact on the spec, due to only using a deck of cards that exists only in their imagination (try F***ing one of those suckers!! ...and, no, that really isn't a rude word I typed there - behave, you dirty-minded lot )

Obviously, there's absolutely NOTHING to stop you using TDB with an actual deck, either....and - of course - it can be borrowed, and there is absolutely NO ***** of a card required; the magi doesn't even have to touch the deck!

If you're going to be investing in one or other of these effects, I'd have to recommend TDB over PP; sure, it's £10-£15 more expensive, but, for the extra versitility, it's money very well-spent.

As an aside, TDB also acts as the ultimate 'out', in case you stuff up a card effect (not that you ever would, of course....just saying )

Hope this is of use guys

Rob

Thanks chaps, that's cleared it up.
I've an idea what TDB involves and you've confirmed for me that's the one I shall be going for. Cheers.

I recently purchased this little bad boy and I must say I love it. The gimmick is compact and easy to use and with about 20 mins practice its soooooo easy to nail everytime!

Only performed it a few times down pub but reactions were great, seriously freaked out one girl big style!

As with all good effects the key is in the performance, the patter gives you loads of time to 'set-up' and then its just a question of selling the idea!

I will never go out without it again!

Interesting read.. thanks for all the comments. Now i have to get this.
Overlooked it for a while, at first i thought it was another stigmata similiar effect, but a gimmick that can do 52 cards, amazing... even if i don't perform it much, i have to see how it looks like

Heya ! Thanks for all the comments and opinion given. I finally bought myself one from MyMagic4u and the price was £22. The gimmick is way too perfect and yet its easy to do. Just need a few times of practice and that's it !

I will say this gimmick is so much better than ID and for ID after sometimes it doesnt work really well and you gotta do something on it. But for this gimmick, you got no worries for it !! Love it really much

I would say it's a great gimmick to invest to and as said previously it will last for life time !