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Misanthropy wrote:I think it should be between the 360 and wii instead of ps3 because the wii outsold more units last christmas (that might have been because the demand for it was higher than shops could supply and they took more pre orders than they could handle therefore disappointing many) than the ps3 and sony lost money on it because they got greedy and demanded too much for it and so people were put off by the price, now its gone down I think more people will get one but it has to sell a lot to make up, the wii is the best selling next gen console out of the 3 with 9.0 million being sold to the 8.9 million xbox 360 and 3.7 million ps3 consoles

Fair point, but total sales so far are only one factor that you consider when you think of which one is "the best". Liverpool are the most successful English team, but I don't think they're "the best" (cos I'm a United fan). So, I think to discount the PS3 simply because of sales would be a wrong decision. If the wii and 360 are still outselling the PS3 in 12 months time then I might be more inclined to agree with you, but with prices surely guaranteed to drop (and a cheaper PS3 out soon... i think) then I think Sony might be able to catch up. (I hope so anyway )

Using the sales figures doesn't dictate which one is best...

I know, personally, of at least 10 people (myself included) who bought a Wii and used it for no more than a couple of months, then sold it.

The Wii's strength relied on the social aspect. Releasing it near Xmas was a great plan, and many people (myself again included) were on 'reminder lists' of dealers who didn't have stock at that time.

Sadly, calling it a 'next gen' console is a tad unfair. It's absolutely nothing compared to the Xbox360 or the PS3. In fact, it really is a runner-up!

However, in terms of novelty, it wins hands-down. Just a shame the technology wasn't quite ready.

However, if they develop a Star Wars simulator with real lightsabre action, I will be back on the list!

(Note: it won't be long before 'Wii' type controllers emerge for the other consoles, I imagine)

I don't think its more than a small minority who bought a wii only to get bored with it and sell it on.

seige wrote:Using the sales figures doesn't dictate which one is best...

Ofcourse, however it is another contributing factor.

The way that I see it though is that wii attracts a different type of gamer than the PS3 and 360. Like I've said before (I think), it's easier to imagine playing mario on the wii than GTA4 or Halo. So, if your the type of gamer that enjoys the wii, then your not going to sell it on, but if you're more of a "hardcore" gamer that enjoys the big names in gaming plus some "luxuries", ie sleek appearance etc, then you're more likely to sell the wii on and buy a PS3 or a 360.

It really depends what your playing desires are. We're a student house and one of our lot bought a Wii a month or so ago, and we love it to bits. The Wii sports thing is great, all the girls can join in so they don't get annoyed at us hogging the TV, and we can still stay up til 4am working through the dungeons of Zelda. Brilliant.

I don't doubt it doesn't compare to either the PS3 or 360 in terms of graphics or features like Blu-Ray DVD (which seems to be taking a while to find it's feet if you don't mind me saying, it's hardly the difference between VHS and DVD! Same with HD) but honestly, that is in major 2nd place to playability. I can still play games on the N64 quite happily, even though the graphics are significantly worse than we're now used to - why? Because a lot of the games are inherently playable. Nintendo have always seemed to have the edge in terms of real, addictive qualities (we won't mention the gamecube), although Sony are also competitors in this field, although they have tended to glut the market with average games - I think they're learning from their mistakes!

For me, you can't beat playing Sonic the Hedgehog on a real ye olden days Megadrive. Now that's a game.

Oh, and Tetris. Super.

I haven't played any of the new consoles yet .

However, talk to me about Gamecube! I love that frickin' system! Super Smash Bros. Melee is the best frickin' game ever! Frick!

monker59 wrote:I love that frickin' system! Super Smash Bros. Melee is the best frickin' game ever! Frick!

Someone likes scrubs!

Awesome show.

cymru1991 wrote:The way that I see it though is that wii attracts a different type of gamer than the PS3 and 360. Like I've said before (I think), it's easier to imagine playing mario on the wii than GTA4 or Halo. So, if your the type of gamer that enjoys the wii, then your not going to sell it on, but if you're more of a "hardcore" gamer that enjoys the big names in gaming plus some "luxuries", ie sleek appearance etc, then you're more likely to sell the wii on and buy a PS3 or a 360.

Firstly Mario and Zelda are much bigger names than GTA or Halo and secondly the wii is much sleeker than the chunky ps3 or xbox 360 and Thirdly what is your definition of "hardcore?" that's pretty much inconsequential as people will always go for the console that has the games on it that they want to play

Ok then, my tuppence on this...

About 24 hours ago I was completely undecided between these three systems. My rationale was this:

Wii: Cheap and sociable.

360: Quality machine, lots of good games, several of my mates regularly play massive onlin Halo 4 games against each other. Not badly priced.

PS3: I have brand loyalty to Sony, the machine has that little something extra in terms of class. Only con is the price.

So, I was wandering around the shops yesterday afternoon trying to make my mind up. I finally decided on a budget of £400, but couldn't see myself getting much PS3 for that. Imagine my surprise then when I discovered I could get a PS3 with two games, a couple of controllers and a Blu-Ray film for £370! Granted it was 'only' a 40gb machine but I'm not nearly techie enough to care about the disadvantages. This was enough and 30 minutes later my housemate and I were sitting in the lounge salivating at the shiny black beast.

It was easy as pie to set up and going online through the wireless was about as pain free as anything computerish I've ever done. The six axis controllers are wicked, they work fine for steering cars and elbowing nazis in the face and I bet they'll be ace for balancing grinds on Skate when I get that later today.

Everything about the system leaks class in my opinion and now the price drop has come there's no competition with anything else to be honest.

Misanthropy wrote:... the wii is much sleeker than the chunky ps3 or xbox 360...

That's cos it's half the machine!

For starters, there's no HD, which would account for at least a sandwich-sized gap.

And we won't even move on to RAM, Processors, Graphics cards etc.

The bottom line for me was that the Wii did *exactly* what I though it would... play 'oldskool' Nintendo stuff. Which is great.

The new 3D wireless Wiimote even LOOKS like a classic 'bar' Nintendo controller.

But really, aside from the controller and the looks, I am quite sure that it would be better to wait for the Wii2 or somesuch. Unless you are prepared to get the Wii solely as a die-hard Nintendo fan, and then play all your Gamecube games on it!

360 all the way...if i want to play tekken v.8293210, i'd of gotten a PS3...

360 have more creative and imaginative publishers/programmers, has a better spec, and apart from the nasty red ring of death, is a damn fine machine...

i play mine thru a 17" lcd tv, in 60hz, via the pc port...superb quality...

PS3 look graphically wise too blocky and overly shiny for my eyes...

I think the number of game produces who rushed titles to be ready for the PS3 launch gave us the wrong idea about PS3's potential. Many of the early games only looked marginally better than PS2 games, but this relates more to the time spent developing the game than what the console can do.

Hopefully we will see more games that realise PS3's great potential over the next 12 months.

BTW, not sure if you have seen this in the UK, but when PS3 was launched in AUS it retailed for AU$999.00 (FYI that's around 445 pounds).

The launch console had a 60 GB hard drive.

Sony has just launched a NEW PS3 in the past month (in AUS at least). now with a 40 GB hard drive and the price tage around AU$650.00.

seige wrote:(Note: it won't be long before 'Wii' type controllers emerge for the other consoles, I imagine)

I believe a patent is involved in the motion sensitive part. I also heard SONY had to settle to resolve alleged patent infringement for their PS3's "6 axis" controller.