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Postby kems » Dec 22nd, '08, 16:21



just a thought.. as this tread is getting so big would it be worth having another section like the naked mentilism one for it?

could discuss alot more openly then

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Postby Michael Kras » Dec 22nd, '08, 16:43

Hello, I have a question to owners of the book...

How long after receiving the book did you start performing successful inductions?

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Postby Strep » Dec 22nd, '08, 16:45

kems wrote:just a thought.. as this tread is getting so big would it be worth having another section like the naked mentilism one for it?

could discuss alot more openly then


Not sure it really warrants it. It's not like any of the techniques are a secret. after all, you're subjects and anyone else who watch see and hear exactly what you do. That's what makes it all the more powerful.

kems wrote:I just need to get the guts to try this out


If you get your subjects to do the set piece all you are doing is demonstrating to them how well they can concentrate. If they don't do very well it doesn't reflect badly on you. If however, they get a cataleptic arm, you can be fairly sure that they're yours, and take the girls, money and glory that goes with it (ok maybe the girls and money are wishful thinking, or at the very least not very ethical). :wink:

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Postby Strep » Dec 22nd, '08, 16:49

Michael Kras wrote:Hello, I have a question to owners of the book...

How long after receiving the book did you start performing successful inductions?


Ordered the book on the Thursday, turned up on the Friday, finished reading it on the Sunday (had a busy weekend), wife forgot who she was on the Tuesday. 3 days for me!

That's said I have used some 'waking hypnosis' techniques on my wife that suggested to me that she would be quite a good subject.

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Postby TargetZero » Dec 22nd, '08, 17:15

I'm like Kems - need the guts to do it for the first time

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Postby Jacquin » Dec 22nd, '08, 18:07

TargetZero wrote:Have you guys had any problems with bringing someone out and the subject remembering everything they did before being put under? Have they been fine and "normal" after it?


If you do your wake up procedure properly this should not be a problem. If it is re-induce and do it again being even more specific and clear. Use their breathing to fire them back up.

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Postby Beardy » Dec 22nd, '08, 21:04

Never had a problem with memory.

It was a week before I had someone completey under, and 3 days beofre i numbed someone's arm at a restaurant

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Postby Michael Kras » Dec 23rd, '08, 00:38

I now have my copy!!!! Very excited, but I have a few questions.

If you tell your subject that they are going to be hypnotized before you perform the "Instant" induction, will it still work?

Must the scripting be spoken EXACTLY as detailed in the book or can it just be the general idea?

What if your subject doesn't understand your instructions during the induction? Or are they heard and understoof subconciously?

Is it best for the script to be spoken rather quickly or very slowly?

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Postby sleightlycrazy » Dec 23rd, '08, 01:24

It's better to use the instant induction as a re-induction, in my experience.

If you can communicate the ideas, that's all you need to worry about.

Come on, Mike, read the book before asking questions... :wink: He answers them quite early in the book.

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Postby Michael Kras » Dec 23rd, '08, 01:26

I've merely scanned it so far... I will read the whole thing from the beginning.

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Re: Reality is Plastic

Postby Strep » Dec 23rd, '08, 01:31

Jacquin wrote:Love the Rhino story strep.

If you are going to do things like give people an orgasm and do not want things to get too messy then it is simple give them a suggestion that will not actually shoot their load.


Oh dear me....when I told him he'd have an orgasm each time I only imagined he'd feel the muscle contractions and ecstatic feeling....didn't really think he might ejaculate (surely this is so 'on topic' it cannot be innuendo bingo'd).

The rhino thing was funny. Told him that he would see a rhino at the end of the bar but then thought 'what if he gets scared' so told him that it wasn't aggressive because it was content just eating some grass. I also told him that he would point it out to people and that when they couldn't see it he'd point it out all the more. When one of my colleagues went over to where he was pointing he got angry with them and said 'don't disturb it you f****** idiot, you'll end up bringing it over'. Laugh, I almost sh..! :D

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Postby Jacquin » Dec 23rd, '08, 01:35

Michael Kras wrote:I now have my copy!!!! Very excited, but I have a few questions.

If you tell your subject that they are going to be hypnotized before you perform the "Instant" induction, will it still work?

Must the scripting be spoken EXACTLY as detailed in the book or can it just be the general idea?

What if your subject doesn't understand your instructions during the induction? Or are they heard and understoof subconciously?

Is it best for the script to be spoken rather quickly or very slowly?


Hi Mike. Glad to hear you are looking forward to it.

Instant inductions will work better if you tell them before. That telling becomes what I refer to as 'the set up'.

Regarding scripting the answer is definitely answered in the intro. Possibly on page 2 :) The answer is of course no you do not need to use my words but in the absence of experience they are a good starting point.

If you try and say exactly what I say it will seem I speak quite quickly. Find a pace that you are comfortable with and that resonates with your subject allowing you to give them a feed with your pace and lead.

It is important they understand. Unconsciously. Ignore their conscious.

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Postby sleightlycrazy » Dec 23rd, '08, 01:44

I emailed you this question already, but since you seem to be replying faster here, I hope you don't mind me asking again,

I noticed that when I do the magnetic palms set piece, peoples' hands tend to be at different heights. The left hand might be an inch or two lower than the right hand or vice versa while the hands are getting closer. I know it doesn't affect the outcome, but I'm curious as to why this is.

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Postby Jacquin » Dec 23rd, '08, 08:59

HI,

sorry I was going away for a couple of days as your email about that arrived and it has got buried.

In answer to your question why does often one hand drop away a little, I guess it is just because the arms tire a little and with the eyes closed they get some body dissociation and cannot keep them on a line.

My advice is utilize it.

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Postby Michael Kras » Dec 23rd, '08, 18:00

I have a problem... I tried the Eye to Hand Fixation induction on my sister... I couldn't get past her "staring at one spot on her palm". Every time I tried to "gauge" her, her arm simply wouldn't stiffen. I worked on it for a good 30 seconds delivering the script with extreme confidence and really trying to get her to focus but her arm was still heavy. What could be the problem?

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