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A word to the wise; If using this for street set, I'd use the trick of having a band across your table if you are going to table the billet/envelope. either that or a small rock or it may blow away, knackering the whole routine.

Is there any difference between a s***i and a pocket writer? Sam told sth. Like that a few posts above. Or did i misunderstood???

yes, there is a huge difference between these.


But then, there is also a difference between nail w*iiters, Boons,and Swam*s.
you can use one or all of the above in the pocket if you so desired.
personaly though, i think that you would be better off using a pock*t wri*er, since thats when they are created for.

and personaly, I'd make some out of pencils, so you can loose them.

You don't need a s***i to do pocket writing. I'd imagine that a s***i would make the job more difficult. I'm pretty sure that Corinda covers it

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hmmm...thats interesting, but nowhere in the internet i can find a pock*t wr**er... bo*n writer i found enough, but no pock*t we**er... could you send me a link per pm? that would be very nice. i just recognized pock*t writing is very difficult with a sw**i

there's no such thing as a pocket writer, or if there is whoever's selling it is having a giggle. Read Corinda.

Lady of Mystery wrote:there's no such thing as a pocket writer, or if there is whoever's selling it is having a giggle. Read Corinda.

Banachek covered pocket writing in his lecture at Blackpool and there isn't anybody who doesn't own a "pocket writer" magician or not.

Thinking about it, it's also on Banachek's PSI series too. I'm not sure which volume it's on though.

Mark Strivings has a book all about pocket writing.
On the subject of gimmicks- I'm embaressingly unaquainted with those sorts of things, and as far as I know there aren't any pocket writers that are manufactured and sold- pocket writing is one of those cool things which you make yourself- and it's cheap and easy and doesn't make too much mess (for a 'DIY' gimmick job) and you can mass manufacture them easily.
There is a great point about pocket writing that it doesn't carry with it the same angling issues as n*il Wr**ing (Which is ideal for close up and street work) and can achieve everything that does with a switch/ wallet. Not only that it is cheaper and more easily replaced.

Ok, now i know what you mean when you talk about a poc**t wr**er. But i need a routine to get that written message in an envelope which was lying on a table all the time... Are there any books or routines? Need sth. Murdering mindblowing

It's good that you've decided what you want to achieve- but it isn't always entirley practicle. There are methods which could simulate that effect but they aren't entirley practicle for street work. But it is always wirth finding a way of presenting a trick so that the audience remember it a certain way. As I said, I would have the word written and then peek it. I would put some distance between this and me holding the envelope/ billet and then purposeley place it on a table or give it someone to hold. Then after the word is named I don't have to touch it.
In magic we always hear about 'presentation' but it is quite an elusive term people seem very unwilling to define. At least my interpretation of it, is not only the entertainment value, but in a magical sense- the skill of being able to misdirect your audience, give them nothing so they can work out even a simple trick and they can't backtrack and implant false memories and setting them up for a distorted memory of the event- hopefully even completley misremembering the vital details but most importantly, the skill it takes to get the big reactions- that's what it's ALL about. Invest as much time as you can in that, instead of stuck in books looking for fantastical techniques. When I first began in magic I came across some very powerful techniques quite quickly and my inexperience got me mild reactions- as I developed experience I can get 10 times stronger reactions from a simple trick and it is 10 times harder to work out.
In mentalism especially, presentation constitues practically all of your miracles- people approach it with a lot of scepticism. I reckon you should practice finding a way of using billets naturally- I have put a lot of time into experimenting with how I can make billet work invisible to the audience- and soing so with presentation is a big part of that. As a little survey for testing afterwards I found that about only one from a group of five even remembered the fact words were written and the one who did had no idea it was important. I could write a dissitation about various means of doing that, but here is not the place- the message I am trying to get across is that the effect is only how it is percieved. I could have someone think of a word and tell them what they're thinking. Or I could just cut out all the complications and get them to write it down and just make everyone forget or not even consider it- ultimatley the audience's experience of it is the same.

sam, my friend. if i understood you right, you would let the spec write down the thought word, then peek, put the pocketwritten billet in the envelope and then lay the envelope on the table etc. . then making big show (hypnotism etc. ) to let him forget the written word... in my opinion its not what im looking for. of course, if they dont know what you want to do, they wont recognise, but the second time they will see it, because of watching very sceptical. anyway, in this case you hold the envelope (or put it out of the pocket) until the spectator told you the word (or wrote it on the billet). in this case i cant do a hypnotismshow before the spectator should think of any word. AFTER thinking of any word its not worth to do a hypnotism show on him, because he has already a word in his head...


hope you understood what i mean.

(for all who misunderstood me, i want to make first a small hypnotism introduction on the spectator, then i want him to think of any word (he should think i affected him), at this time the envelope should already lay on the table. then i peek etc. and should be able to put MY billet in THAT envelope. ) i guess thats a most better effect than pulling the envelope after peeking out of the pocket or give off my hands. (i already have an idea of a routine: what about an envelope with a flimsypaper glued inside. you could write with any spikey thing ON the back of the envelope and on the paper inside there will be written the word...ok...just an idea from me)

so, thats the effect i want to create. i think thats most shocking. but how could i do that? pulling out the envelope AFTER peeking is not as shocking i guess...

Oh, no I wasn't saying you need to hynpotise them to forget that it was written, but I was just saying how I'd handle it to make it so that the spectators remember I never touched the envelope. All I was saying was that with the right showmanship and nonchalance attitude towards the billet very few audience members will consider it of any significance to the method.
Perhaps then, if you think there will be the same people watching it again, try a little 'jazz mentalism'. Use several different methods which each have different advantages and disadvantages and that way, if you are performing for the same audience, the inherent weaknesses of one method are covered by another method.
I know I can be difficult to understand (even for native speakers) and I apologise for that, but I hope I have been clear.

oh, sam i understood you right the first time. i meant i wanted to make a routine which makes them give the feeling i manipulated them to think exactly of that word. in other words, i want to lay an envelope on the table, then make a hypnotism introduction, then snip with the fingers;"now, i want you to think of any word". when he named it, the envelope gets opened-the named word is in.

YOU say i have to hold the envelope until he told me the thought word, THEN make a big show to make them forget they told me the word and i could after that have it written on the billet in the envelope. thats not what i want. there must be another technique- understand me right, AFTER the spectator told me the thought word, it makes no sence to make my hypnotism anymore. the effect of manipulating his thoughts is ireproducible for them then.

i know, difficult thing