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Am I the only one who thought it was pretty brutal? Confusing, nonsensical, predictable and ended in a ridiculously absurd manner, anything the Doctor does to recover from spoiler: THE UNIVERSE ENDING is going to be nuts beyond anything else the show has done.

The ending was pretty predictable, but still enjoyable. Looking forward to next week. I imagine it's too much to hope River Song is gone for good.

Harry Guinness wrote:Am I the only one who thought it was pretty brutal? Confusing, nonsensical, predictable and ended in a ridiculously absurd manner, anything the Doctor does to recover from spoiler: THE UNIVERSE ENDING is going to be nuts beyond anything else the show has done.

This is Doctor Who, where things that are silly and absurd are actually quite common.

Hell the man saved the Universe by towing a bunch of planets behind the TARDIS.

I have to say I really enjoyed this episode and have also enjoyed the whole series (especially the angels episodes). I'm also very much looking forward to the finale, if the Tardis does end up getting nuked it wouldn't be the first time the Doctor has had his transport taken from him (just look at the Pertwee years)...

I loved this episode. Can't wait for next week.

If I could see episode one of this series, I'm sure all the clues would be there. I think it's going to be along the lines of the whole series happened on one night when Amy was still a child. So in episode one when Amy first meets the Doctor, everything has already happened. Does that make sense?

Ha ha! Just checked episode one on YouTube! The last episode (12/13) made much of the Pandorica being a fairy tale, a story, something that wasn't real. The Docotr was quite sure of this at first - the Pandorica was just a fairy tale.

When he first met Amy in epside one, he asked her name. She replied "Amelia Pond". "Brilliant name!" said the Doctor. "Sounds like the name of a girl in a fairy tale!"

Also, in episode one:

- the tardis crashes in Amy's garden, all smashed up and in danger of exploding. Sound familiar?

- Amy's garden is very overgrown.

- Amy mentions that she lives with her aunt, but her aunt has gone out.

- But later she gives the doctor an apple with a halloween style face carved in it. She claims her mum does that to apples all the time.

It's my belief (and I'm probably wrong by a zillion miles) that Amy isn't "real". She's been created in some way to save the universe from destruction. Perhaps Amy is the Pandorica. And the doctor, locked in the Pendorica, is in fact locked into Amy's memories where he can go off and have adventures without putting reality at risk.

And of course, the root of Pandorica is Pandora (of the box fame). Amy's surname is Pond - a shortened version of Pandora?

The meaning of Amelia is "work". So her work (or job) is to keep the universe safe from the Doctor.

Or maybe I've eaten too many chilli Doritos tonight!!

I dunno...I think he'll escape and save the universe...

...or something...

Beardy wrote:I dunno...I think he'll escape and save the universe...

...or something...

Or he'll think he escapes, but in reality (whatever that is) he's inside the Pandorica. And what's he actually saving the universe from this time?

I think the ending will be slightly ambiguous. Is the Doctor's reality real reality or imagined reality and what's the difference?

The Daleks and the Cybermen and everyone else teaming up to save the universe? Nah. It's in her head. It's a prison where the Doctor can play his games safely. He said with confidence.

Well it doesn't make any sense for the Daleks to want to save the Universe sense their sole motivation is to simply destroy and they seemed not to care about blowing themselves up to create the new power ranger ones.

Them teaming up with the Cybermen is kind of odd, seeing has they did fight and nearly took over the earth. But then weirder things have happened. The Daleks were blown up and erased from time and history during the Bad Wolf thing and then blown up by Doctor Donna.

The crack only following Amy around could mean that she was created to go inside it, and thus stop it. Which could happen and then the Doctor finds a way to bring her back, like they did a ton of times with Rose (who was supposedly in other Universe and the TARDIS only had enough fuel to transmit a message.)

I am assuming that maybe The Doctor get's a new TARDIS OR he figured something out and how to sort of rewind time while in the Pandrica with the help of Amy.

The crack is the doctor trying to escape the Pandorica! And each adventure in each episode has actually been security protocols attempting to stop him!

And just to reiterate where you heard it first - Amy Pond is Pandorica.

Okay, I'll stop now.

That could explain why she didn't remember when the Daleks pretty much moved the entire solar system, or when The Master turned everybody into his clones.

Then again, The UK seems to get invaded and attacked nearly every so often, that it must be quite common to see things like that.

"OH look Henry, the Daleks are invading the world again."
"hmm mmm."

I'm thinking something along the lines of doctor being thrown in the crack because in the angel episode he was on about a massive timey wimey thing being able to stop it...

Amelia Pond is told at some point to remember the doctor...

Amy Pond meets Amelia Pond (bear with me!) and Amelia reminds Amy about the doctor (remember he has been wiped from existence ) then has her memory erased so as not to cause a paradoxical Amy not remembering seeing herself when she was younger...

Then Amy remembers and brings the doctor back through the cracks using the TARDIS?

No?

Well it's a theory.....

Yeah I agree, it's a pretty sh!t theory....

themagicwand wrote:The crack is the doctor trying to escape the Pandorica! And each adventure in each episode has actually been security protocols attempting to stop him!

Even if turns out to be wrong it is still a genius suggestion!

themagicwand wrote:The crack is the doctor trying to escape the Pandorica! And each adventure in each episode has actually been security protocols attempting to stop him!

This would mean that the Byzantium adventure is still to happen. River Song referenced it in the library episode when she met the last Doctor and died.