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Lawrence wrote:Well I was coming on here to have a decent chat about the show but clearly that's not going to happen!

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*sigh* We all were.......! I don't know why I let myself get sucked into it, I really don't!

eshly...ybat...please shut up...

i've not even watched it yet - but i just needed to say that after reading this thread...

please continue...

Let's hope that Pilot for the next series of 999 works out for Derren.

Hokey reconstructions, bad acting, judgemental presenting

perfect! Michael Burke must be proud he is carrying on the mantle

The Davenports instructions bit was quite funny, had to giggle at that, but overall the show was disappointing.

Derren will be doing a McKenna next and selling self help DVD's lol

Jordan C wrote:Derren will be doing a McKenna next

That was my thought exactly. I'm sure he'd make a lot more money that way, but if he then stopped performing magic (for want of a better word) I think we'd be worse off.

you may be onto something there.

So many people are setting themselves up as motivational speakers, and life coaches these days, with little or no qualifications to their name. Maybe this was a precurser to a show exposing the potential dammage behind the shady end of that business.

daleshrimpton wrote:you may be onto something there.

So many people are setting themselves up as motivational speakers, and life coaches these days, with little or no qualifications to their name. Maybe this was a precurser to a show exposing the potential dammage behind the shady end of that business.

You never know, I just hope part2 makes more sense. No wonder they kept it all hush hush, i think many 'fans' wouldn't have tuned in if we knew!!

I am confused by the 'LIVE' claim. There was only a bit at the start that seemed live. By live I was expecting the whole scenario (as in the conclusion) to unfold live on TV but instead it was clear it had happened during a daytime.

Jordan C wrote:I am confused by the 'LIVE' claim. There was only a bit at the start that seemed live. By live I was expecting the whole scenario (as in the conclusion) to unfold live on TV but instead it was clear it had happened during a daytime.

That was my only real gripe with the show. The live inserts added nothing to the programme save for allowing for the 8/9/10 11:12 moment. Added a heck of a lot of traction to the trailer though.

Jordan C wrote:
You never know, I just hope part2 makes more sense. .

Remember the Events? Everyone was hoping that everything would make sense and there would be a big reveal at the end of those. But there wasn't. It was another so-so DB programme, this time without the usual "no stooges or actors" disclaimer...

A lot of people are assuming it's the same guy in part 2, makes sense I suppose, most people are now aware that the game show thing was rubbish.

Can I take it that we are all now back on topic, i.e the Channel 4 Show with Derren called Hero at 30,000 feet? If not the thread needs to end here and now.

I thought I was on topic!!

Jordan C wrote:I thought I was on topic!!

One of the majority, thank goodness - it's the minority that screw things up!

Dunno about you folks but if I were on a plane with no conscious pilot or co-pilot and noibody else likely to have flying knowledge, I'd be working on a different principle. a) If I try to fly the plane, we are very lilely to crash. b) If I don't try to fly the plane we'll definitely crash. Therefore c) I'll have a go and hope that ground control can talk me though what to do - which is exactly what happened albeit in a simulator rather than at 30,000ft.

I did feel rather sorry for the guy, everybody else had changed into tuxedos and posh frocks and he was the only poor bug.ger in his sweaty everyday clothes - I hope somebody arranged for some smart gear to be available in his sizes!

I'd better get my tuppence in before the thread gets locked by Eshly. Or as i like to call him, The Keymaster.

Because their opinions are way more subjective than any of yours, i turned to people on facebook for comments on the quality of the show. Not methods, not in-jokes, but how the show worked for them.

Turns out most people who i call my friends on facebook (300 nearly, and you know what? Sometimes I'm still sat in on my own on a Friday night. Anyway, the point is none of them are magicians) all believed the guy to be a stooge. I don't think he was a stooge, i think he was as wet as a fish's wet bits which could have been the main reason Derren selected him. As someone else in the thread rightly pointed out, if there's smoke coming from beneath a door, you react. If you have your senses and aren't slower than a snail on valium, you react. Even if you don't charge out the door yelling FIRE, you at least point out the smoke to the people around you for an indication on how to react. The fact that he sat there filling in the forms watching the smoke from the corner of his eye indicates to me that he's slow. Dangerously.

Derren was trying to pull off something that illustrated social proof like the Genovese case, but obviously thought a fake stabbing was too full on.

I liked the gentle nod to Donnie Darko, but wish Derren had dressed in a bunny suit.

I found the ending to be so sickly sweet i didn't know whether to turn over or vomit blood. I went for the former. Family Guy and American Dad were on BBC Three, and anything's better than Big Brother's Ultimate Fame Hungry Never Weres.

I applaud Derren for moving on from Magic, Suggestion bling blong blah. He has to. He's in one of those spots where to continue with his mentalism will result in people telling him he's stuck in a rut, and to move on results in people - like us mainly - moaning that he's not a mentalist anymore.
I think, from his recent shows, he kind of wants to distance himself from it, yet his tours are mentalism, and he's claimed to love touring. He moved on from card magic, now he's moving on from mentalism.
It's out there, it's happening, it's apparent. If you don't like it, don't watch.
I don't think i will be, because the show was basically an hour dedicated to something he could have done with a hypno-script when the guy was under. Getting Channel 4 to throw hundreds of thousands of pounds chartering aircraft, throwing street parties and hiring simulators made for a more entertaining show of course, but felt a little surplus to requirements.