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Postby jhmagic1 » Apr 26th, '11, 13:51



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Was a bit confused at the end though when the guy read out the brand of his shoes?


Yea, I thought there was meant to be something in that, didnt get it either though.

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Postby Jean » Apr 26th, '11, 13:55

Seriously that's your response? Your going on the attack straight away?

Firstly not everyone knows that faith healers are conmen otherwise they wouldn't be successful. Secondly the tooth fairy is nothing like faith healers and you know it, (for one thing the tooth fairy is real, and she usually gives money rather than takes it). Thirdly I allready knew about faith healers but I didn't know about the people who promise that god will give you more money if you donate to them. Finally what I found absolutely fantastic about this T.V special was that the majority of people featured who were trying to bring faith healers down were christians and believes. Blowing a hole in the Bullsh*t 'moderate's allow extremists to exist' argument anti-theist's like to throw around.

He was able to attack some of the worst kind of conmen without ever attacking faith or religion, and that made it brilliant.

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Postby Tomo » Apr 26th, '11, 14:17

I think the final shots of the audience at Nathan's gig really said it all. There's a lot they're going to have to think about, but for once, they didn't have to pay for something that apparently comes free. And they weren't left looking like idiots, which was great.

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Postby Ted » Apr 26th, '11, 14:23

I was pleasantly surprised by the production team's scruples regarding the PR company.

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Postby Jean » Apr 26th, '11, 14:34

I think my favourite bit was when that man said 'I was called the anti-Christ. Now I'm promoted, I'm the devil incarnate.'

I was also surprised, when the sheriff stopped them and gave them a trespassing warning that Derren didn't just hypnotise him to forget the whole thing.
'Can I see your passports?'
'The wall around my house is only four feet tall.'

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Postby themagicwand » Apr 26th, '11, 15:47

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Postby Ted » Apr 26th, '11, 15:52

themagicwand wrote:OH MY GOD!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6how8Sp4jg


Mallashanti Bragollilliola Rhandibrigandi!

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Postby themagicwand » Apr 26th, '11, 15:54

Ted wrote:Mallashanti Bragollilliola Rhandibrigandi!

Exactly!

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Postby Ted » Apr 26th, '11, 15:55

themagicwand wrote:
Ted wrote:Mallashanti Bragollilliola Rhandibrigandi!

Exactly!


I'm glad you agree. Those are the *actual* words of God.

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Postby TonyB » Apr 26th, '11, 16:01

I know I am missing something here, as my computer doesn't do sound any more. But on the original topic, I found this thoroughly entertaining, and done with a refreshing sense of ethics. A return to form with Derren. And the fact that three people could be trained to put on some sort of hypnosis show after just a few hours is interesting. What do the hypnotists have to say about that?

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Postby Erwin » Apr 26th, '11, 16:06

The clips show people filled with the Holy Spirit speaking in tongues, Tony.

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Postby Tomo » Apr 26th, '11, 16:08

themagicwand wrote:OH MY GOD!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6how8Sp4jg

That's very f**ked up.

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Postby Jean » Apr 26th, '11, 17:16

The creepy music certainly helped.
That sort of stuff is more silly than creepy to me. I wouldn't worry about how those kids turned out. According to Derren, he came from the same world.

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Postby Chris Tennant » Apr 26th, '11, 17:49

TonyB wrote:I know I am missing something here, as my computer doesn't do sound any more. But on the original topic, I found this thoroughly entertaining, and done with a refreshing sense of ethics. A return to form with Derren. And the fact that three people could be trained to put on some sort of hypnosis show after just a few hours is interesting. What do the hypnotists have to say about that?


I thought this was quite a interesting point, it shows that a firm belief that someone is a hypnotist, will help with the induction process, having someone like Derren build up the prestige for the performer, also increases the expectation. I think it was handled well and not dwelt upon too long in the performance. I cannot see any hypnotists being up in arms about this any time soon.

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