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As is selling rip off magic tricks which is however allowed here. In fact selling rip off magic tricks is illegal but selling original DVDs is not.

Anyhow as you said

Our position is that a rule has been made and is not going to be changed no matter what arguments are brought against it.

As is selling rip off magic tricks which is however allowed here.

But not condoned and near impossible to police without a team of patent lawyers which I am afraid we cannot fund! Even the creators themselves seem incapable of stopping the ripoffs, which is a real shame, but you can be sure that when I purchase an effect myself I make as certain as I can that it is not a ripoff.

MagicDiscoMan wrote:Problem with taking the moral highground Nick is that it's a never ending battle and hard to fight without making yourself a hypocrite in the areas you choose to ignore.

I don't know about any moral highground, I don't consider myself to be taking it. And we don't choose to ignore any areas, but you can't expect us to recognise every rip off product that turns up for sale here when they are sold in all the magic stores.

Regarding not being able to login, if we had any sense we would ban you for having opened this topic up for debate again!

Hmm can't seem to log in so just in case there is the slightest doubt this is magicdiscoman

i know I'm a paranoid shysophrenic but even i can figure out that wasn't me

if you going to pass your self off as me then drop the capitals the spelling and any sense to you ur posts or you will be found out.

or you will be found out

Don't worry Jason, we've checked IP addresses on several posts in this thread and we know exactly who is who.

Any idea why I can't log on?

What does it say when you try?

Sorted now Mate.

It wasn't saying anything, just not happening.

True, many of the major ones are well known, but if we ban the sales of those and not others we will be in even more risk of coming under fire from double standards, and since this seems to be a large part of you earlier argument I am not sure that it is reasonable. There is also the problem that we have to be certain of the heritage of any trick that is sold. Just because a new trick comes ou that is the same as an older one doesn't mean that it is automatically a rip-off, the creator may have registered prior knowledge, in which case he would have every right to sell it and we could come under serious fire for banning its sale.

We have to have a policy that is very broad, so the one we have settled on is that dvd, video and book sales will not be allowed and trick sales will. After all, many magic dealers are unable to discriminate between rip-offs and they have potentially more to lose than we do.

We have to have a policy that is very broad, so the one we have settled on is that dvd, video and book sales will not be allowed and trick sales will. After all, many magic dealers are unable to discriminate between rip-offs and they have potentially more to lose than we do.

And per-lease. can we let that be the last word on the subject?

no problem thanxs for all the debate.

by the way i have michel armars xcylopedia of coin slights (half included) and card sleights for the blind (bike deck included) for sale