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Postby mrfye » May 26th, '06, 11:52



i love you roth

this is an amazing effect

i was doing it to my frieds all day with the usual method and my sister asked me to show her :shock: (this is the same sister who is constantly telling me to stop filcking cards and to stop trying tricks on her)

i was doing the effect and was reveling that it was an injury, and then an idea :idea: she had broken her arm 4 years back and thought it must be that and slowly started to revile that she broke her arm and she was looking like this :shock: and has been ever since

soo two thumbs up from mr fye

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Postby Maddened » May 26th, '06, 16:47

Roth wrote:Once you see the methodologies used you can adapt it to any language.

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Thanks for the clarification. I will now very seriously think about whether to get this or not... Aargh... Temptation... Can't... fight... eek. :P

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Postby Maddened » May 27th, '06, 15:34

Roth wrote:
Once you see the methodologies used you can adapt it to any language.

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Alright I succumbed and placed my order for it. Honestly, $20 which including worldwide shipping for somthing that has gardnered so many positive reviews is probably too little. Thanks everyone... I'm going to go sit by my mailbox now with a tin of biscuits and a keg of coffee till the thing arrives. :D

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Postby Roth » May 27th, '06, 17:35

Maddened wrote:
Roth wrote:
Once you see the methodologies used you can adapt it to any language.

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Alright I succumbed and placed my order for it. Honestly, $20 which including worldwide shipping for somthing that has gardnered so many positive reviews is probably too little. Thanks everyone... I'm going to go sit by my mailbox now with a tin of biscuits and a keg of coffee till the thing arrives. :D


Thank you for the order. $20.00 includes my Sanctum membership card and Kioku. :D

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Postby DrTodd » May 27th, '06, 20:08

You will not regret it MADDENED!

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Postby Mahoney » May 28th, '06, 03:46

Man, I need to try this more often. I'm beginning to fogret about it. It's a great trick, but the setting is very important.

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Postby katrielalex » May 28th, '06, 23:13

Aargh. Just gave in to CUPS.

Please arrive quickly now! :P

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Postby Flash » May 28th, '06, 23:24

Welcome to the gang Kati!!!

Don't you just love CUPS? :lol:

Honestly it's a nice bit of kit that's definitely worth the cash...

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Postby Silkenone » May 29th, '06, 02:02

Absolutely! I just put it to work for the first time and it went great. Love it!!
Roth, for this and for Homicide (a masterpiece) - you da man!!

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Postby Maddened » May 29th, '06, 05:21

Er... I have this extremely stupid newbie question to ask but what is this CUPS that you're all talking about? :?: :? :?:

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Postby ian69 » May 29th, '06, 07:57

Compulsive Unnecessary Purchase Syndrome

We all suffer!

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Postby Maddened » May 29th, '06, 09:17

ian69 wrote:Compulsive Unnecessary Purchase Syndrome

We all suffer!


:o YES!!! I have that too! Thanks for explanining. Now I finally know the name to this problem of mine... :lol:

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Postby Mark Smith » Jun 5th, '06, 12:12

Aha! Mine arrived in the post today, not at all what I expected!

I am extremely impressed with the method. So simple and yet brilliant. If there's anyone who performs this properly at the moment, I'd be interested as to how you rationalise the use of different cards, rather than just pick a memory off one card. I can see how they are trying to justify it, but it does seem a bit odd. It almost smacks of self working maths when in fact the method is so much more subtle and intellegant than that.

I've got some ideas, but anyone with any advice, I'm open to PM's. Many thanks.

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Postby Mark Smith » Jun 5th, '06, 13:02

Plus....

I'm actually having a bit of trouble with the cards. Um, not sure how I can say this without giving anything away. My card values are difficult to assign because the printing is not so great on the back. Hope someone understands what on earth Im talking about!! If someone out there could tell me which cards are which then that'd be great!

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Postby Sexton Blake » Jun 5th, '06, 13:38

Mark Smith wrote:If there's anyone who performs this properly at the moment, I'd be interested as to how you rationalise the use of different cards, rather than just pick a memory off one card.


I still haven't had a chance to try this out in the field yet, as I've been trapped at the base of a secluded embankment under an overturned car for the past four weeks, or something. However, while lying with my mouth open to collect rainwater, I have given it some thought. (I don't think this discloses the method to non-owners, but mod all over me if you believe otherwise).

OK, so I reckon I'll start off talking about memories being triggered. That is, the difference between simply being aware of something that's happened in the past on the one hand, and recalling it because of a 'prompt' on the other. Perhaps I might go with the old Proust bit - his being abruptly plunged back into his youth by the smell and taste of a piece of cake. Perhaps - if they look like they'll have no pigging idea who Proust is - not. Either way, I'll talk about how memories are often much more intense when they're triggered - I’ll ask if they've experienced this themselves: heard a song on the radio, or seen an old toy, or happened across wallpaper the same as the kind that was in their hallway ten years ago, and suddenly a memory has come back very powerfully. (I think we can assume that anyone in the ideal spec range of 'Older than four, but younger than actually dead' will have experienced this.)

So, leaving out details that fill in themselves, we now have a perfectly valid reason both for their picking a memory from the first card, and for viewing the other cards to have it 're-triggered' - to help *you*: you need that intensity if you're to have any chance of reading it (I'd leave that implicit, rather than stating it, though). You can make if clear that the memory may be on the cards or not - the fact that it's an unknown helps it work as a trigger (here, I'll probably apologetically add that I knocked up the cards myself the other day, so they're a bit haphazard anyway).

I think this give reasons for the presentation that are simple and consistent. If bad luck means that the memory happens to be on all the cards, a, 'Tch - that was on them all? I must fix that,' should do. If it's on only one, a, 'Tch - must fix that,' at the end, maybe, but first, a, 'Oh, sorry - can you go back to the first card. We'll use that to trigger it.' (Or, probably even better, to 'keep the uncertainty', ask them to mix up the cards, face down (or behind their back), and go through them again to have a 'surprise trigger' you can focus on.

I'm aware that I haven't explained that very well, but I think everyone who has the effect will get my gist.

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