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so far the doctor appears to of crossed his own time line at least once. and has changed history. Liz 10 reffered to the doctors dallience with Liz 1. Something that shouldnt of happened.

and at the end of the first episode, we hear him returning to teh young amilia... something that clearly changes amy..

and presumably created the cracks.

Hes going to have to go back, and repair the damage at some point.

which is why Amy is only in one series.

The one thing that I don't understand though is where the amy 'get the doctor away from here' recording came from?

themagicwand wrote:Karen Gillan running around in her nightie and dressing gown = homage to Arthur Dent?

Last week was definitely tipping a nod to Douglas Adams!

Beardy wrote:The one thing that I don't understand though is where the amy 'get the doctor away from here' recording came from?

She recorded it before pressing the Forget button

daleshrimpton wrote:and at the end of the first episode, we hear him returning to teh young amilia... something that clearly changes amy..

I watched that episode again recently and I am now wondering if perhaps the Doctor does come back for the young Amelia, but for some reason she can't remember it. There's definitely something up with Leadworth. Why was Rory's pass issued in 1990?

Flash wrote:But... Whoever said original doctor wasn't creepy is deluded... What about the one in the lighthouse? And the Fu Manchu style episode with the giant rats? At the time these were really scary stuff (I was terrified by the creature who's face looked like a brain with an eyeball in the middle). It's just when we look at it now we're too jaded by the other stuff we've seen to appreciate the effect it had back then...

People recall things strangely. I know someone in her 20s, whose father insists that the Doctor never kills, when he did quite a bit of killing over the years (poisoning Solon in 'The Brain of Morbius' being one of the most glaring examples).

Many of Tom Baker's stories were heavily influenced by horror films. The Morbius creature was effectively Frankenstein's monster (there was even a hunchback assistant), the Krynoids were inspired by 'The Quatermass Xperiment', 'The Talons of Weng Chiang' was part Fu Manchu, part Phantom of the Opera. Some have even likened 'The Robots of Death' to a zombie film (in the proper sense that zombies are unliving servants that can be commanded by certain people, rather than 'the living dead' that Romero popularised).

themagicwand wrote:Karen Gillan running around in her nightie and dressing gown = homage to Arthur Dent?

I'd have said it was more like Wendy flying off with Peter Pan.

Prisoner Zero, Elizabeth 10? Is there a binary theme here? Just putting down a marker.

Part-Timer wrote:I'd have said it was more like Wendy flying off with Peter Pan.

Ooooh spot on that man!!! Good analogy...

daleshrimpton wrote:
which is why Amy is only in one series.

When did we find out that? That's a real shame - she's the best companion in years!!!

The comparisons with Stephen Moffats' 'Girl in the Fireplace' continue to mount up. Doctor meets little girl in her night attire, saves her from an impending tragedy, zooms off only to retrurn moments later to him but many years to her where she is still threatened by the same bad stuff as before. Girl has developed an attraction to this mysterious time traveller, along the way there is an encounter with devilish automatons involved on a long term spaceship journey, Doctor promises to return shortly but each time takes far longer than he realises.....

Karen Gillan is quite the attractive lady.

Any who, I didn't think he returned to her in the past, just returned to her like two years after they met the 2nd time. His whole bad timing thing is probably what had a major effect on her.

Also I was reading the previews for one of the other episodes and it appears he also leaves her again, this time for 5 years and then returns when she is about to give birth or something.. at least that's what the wiki article said.

Also Karen Gillan and Matt Smith are signed on for two seasons. So she'll be back after this season and in one of the Christmas Specials.

Is it me, or was last night's episode noticeably shorter than the others? Particularly in the Christoper Ecclestone series, the shows were just shy of an hour in length.. some of the Tennant shows were around 50 minutes but last night's barely scratched the 40 minute mark....

At least, that's how it felt! I want more Daleks!!!

Right - I really did NOT like the new daleks. Something was bugging me about them and eventually I realised what it was. The big rubber bit across the front! And why did I not like that? Because it totally reminded me of the way Leyland changed and messed up the classic MGB. Just as the daleks have gone from RTD "classic" to Moffat "new" so the MGB went from classic "chrome bumper" to "rubber bumper". See the evidence here...

Proper MGB



Rubbish MGB



Proper dalek



Rubbish dalek



Please someone tell me that they agree! Bring back the old daleks!

LOL!! It's true, there was defnitely something 'off' about the new design Daleks... and the MG Bumper may well be it!!!

Klangster1971 wrote:LOL!! It's true, there was defnitely something 'off' about the new design Daleks... and the MG Bumper may well be it!!!

Oh, and they have proper behinds as well!